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Post by gagunslinger on Jan 19, 2017 2:55:44 GMT
Timothy Treadwell. Who did not tread well. In fact, this moron got his girlfriend, Amy Huguenard, 37, killed and eaten alongside himself. Here is actual audio of them being eaten alive: m.youtube.com/watch?v=g9lCkFygaaQIf you are not able to withstand the horror of hearing this then have a look. Here is a written report: www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.htmlIf people want to ignore or dismiss reality, it's on them. It is very sad to look at the history of man. Ideals are peaceful. History is not. Wolf Kin, please tread well. DM's history is shaping up to be more violent than our own. They are NOT BEARS. But if you want to ignore this history, it's on you. Want to go dog-whispering? Fine. Just don't get someone else killed and eaten alongside yourself, OK? Also, I take it your comment about 'genocide' was aimed at Vic's guest speaker last Friday, and the group he is willing to lead out and back again safely? Somehow, I doubt you even listened to the interview. At no time, ever, was the word, or even the idea of genocide mentioned. The group is forming out of a threat response. In Africa, when maneaters (lions, etc), crop up, they are hunted down and destroyed. Doesn't mean the hunters kill off every lion, everywhere, now does it? I highly recommend you read up on the realities of dangerous game experiences both historic and modern. May I suggest Capstick? Any of his books will benefit your knowledge. Most (if not all) begin with the word 'Death' in the title - Death in the Silent Places - you get the idea. m.youtube.com/watch?v=G88_SuEIX0sI am not a hunter. But I will hunt a DM that tries to kill people. This is not hunting, this is threat response. Ok, nothing further from me on this subject. My place is not to sway anyone's viewpoint or prove that which is already proven. Be intelligent, educate and learn. And tread well. Respectfully, Crow Thank you Crow. every eyewitness i have heard from have stated that they were terrified. the vibe that they said they felt was one of fear and death. These animals are exactly like any other animal. they are dangerous. you dont provoke them, they will protect themselves and other DM in there pack. my advice is stay vigilant and aware of your surrondings when in DM territory don't travel by your self stay in a group of 4 or more.
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Post by gagunslinger on Jan 19, 2017 3:00:37 GMT
Wolf Kin,
One more thing. Please do not come on here making accusations about the NADP based on one members statement, instead talk to all of us. Chances are the one person you take seriously has no clue about why we are investigating these creatures, and are probably hoping you do what you did fly off the handle and start throwing around accusations based on one persons information.
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Post by ag47 on Jan 19, 2017 7:47:03 GMT
gagunslinger, crow - fwiw, we're on the same page. All I advocate is common sense, and safety. This guy comes here and attacks us as if we're some sort of bloodthirsty animal haters, and I resent it. I haven't met anyone like that here, and I know I love & respect animals. As far as this dogman thing. I want to see this phenomenon investigated, because it's certainly exploding. Experiencers are coming out of the woodwork. Too many reports to ignore or write off as hysteria, hoaxes, etc. Something's out there. I want to know what it is. I can tell you this though, I would not go alone into the woods looking for this thing and I would not go into a potentially dangerous situation unarmed - I'm trained and qualified to have it and it would be stupid of me not to. At times when I had to go into dangerous urban areas for my work, I was certainly armed and prepared to protect myself against a whole different kind of animal. That's just common sense, not hate or fear (other than the healthy kind of fear one should feel when threatened, and which triggers our fight or flight instincts - for those of us who still have those). Just my $0.02. - Silver
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Post by Wolf kin on Jan 19, 2017 17:23:37 GMT
I have come across more and more hateful remarks regarding the Dogmen. People......We have taken over many of the dogmens original habitats, territories and hunting grounds, and they are not happy with us. They are just as entitled to be here as we are.
In my spare time I visit with Dogmen in the summer. You should read my dogman articles. My real, true and honest experiences with them. These things are real, they have emotions, they can feel pain. Have a little respect and understanding for them, and their way of life.
Goggle me as zaywolf if you are interested in my experiences with Dogmen. You might be surprised to know, they are not as viscous as you people are implying. They are not all like that.
I go out there to reach out to them, spend time with them, build trust, and eager to discover how they think and feel about things here on planet Earth as they stand today.
Don't be monsters yourselves. These are earth beings as well. A little respect and understanding can go a long way. Anger towards them and wanting to commit genocide against their species is one of the most despicable attrocities of humanities past.
They are intelligent. THINK ABOUT THAT. That provides the opportunity to interact with them in ways that you would a person, because in a way they are a little like people. They have advanced intelligence, reasoning, and cognitive abilities.
I am here to offer the Dogmen my support, in a world that has changed so much in such a short period of time. I do not support my own species agendas regarding the disrespect of other life forms.
Don't be so hasty to judge them. This is their world too. They have certain areas that they prefer to live, and they deserve some respect. While everyone else is determined to kill them, I determined to help Dogmen and people come to an understanding of each other. That is why I spend time with them, to discover what their true personalities are, and experience real facts for myself interacting with them directly.
Above all else, the Dogmen have a right to a say in all of this, and I am trying to find out what their needs are, and what their side of the story is. I have put my own life on the line for them many times over the past 4 summers, and the way that I approach them, has yielded passive encounters with them.
I'm on a mission of coexistance with their kind, and Im still alive to tell MY story.
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Post by ag47 on Jan 19, 2017 18:00:41 GMT
wolf kin/zaywolf (yeah, I've seen your other postings on other sites), you did not read a word I posted, or anyone else for that matter. I have no animosity toward these animals or whatever they are. I know I have not made any hateful remarks about anyone or anything. I am an inquisitor, an investigator, a person who seeks to know what is going on around me. In my world, it is sheer stupidity to go into dangerous situations without the means to protect myself. No one should take offense to that, and if they do, too bad. Normal flesh and blood animals do not communicate telepathically with humans. If you are getting communications this way from something I strongly suspect it is not what you think (or it's mental illness). If such things were just species, why did the owners (Bigelow) of Skinwalker Ranch (who bought it for what was going on there) bring in para-science investigators (N.I.D.S.) to investigate and analyze the phenomena (some of which involved large, wolf-like creatures)? Watch the (not so great) movie Men Who Stare at Goats. It's a comedy starring George Clooney. Watch the making of bonus features that tell the story of the military units that were tasked to investigate paranormal stuff. That really did happen, and I think it still is. Remote viewing and a lot of other stuff came out of it. (see Major General Albert Stubblebine, and Col. John B. Alexander). Alexander on Skinwalker Ranch: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYMj1LHtOmwI, and others here, are concerned that your lack of common sense in dealing with the unknown will encourage others to go out into these places where these things have been encountered, and get someone hurt or killed. There it is. You do what you want, but don't sell your spiel to the unsuspecting about your psychic connections to whatever you're talking to. My thoughts are what you're communicating with is demonic in nature and it may or may not have anything to do with 'dogman.' ...or maybe you're a troll. Hmm?
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Post by Wolf kin on Jan 19, 2017 18:09:24 GMT
Evil in the universe you say? Humans are the most evil of all beings, taking over everything for themselves. I am not ashamed to state that because it's true. I feel different about things than most others. Sure there are "good people" out there, but mostly that "good" stays within humanities inner circle. There are other things besides us that should have a fair stake in life. Just because my own species has the ego and power to control and oppress everything does not mean I stand beside my own kind. There are other areas of life struggling for survival out there that don't have weapons or technology to back them up. Humanities past is a very tainted one, both towards the animal kingdom and each other.
And since I'm not interested in trying to destroy Dogmen, I'm sure I'm not welcome here either.
I'm not religious, but I'm familiar with the revelation stories of the beasts of the earth. It also says that they will devour kings and haughty men. "World leaders of arrogance and corruption" is my interpretation of that message. It also states that many will "believe" they are in good standing with God only to be cast aside. I feel there is something that people are overlooking entirely. Many people are exploiters of life on planet Earth, not good stewards. The Dogmen may very well be the ones that cleanse this world of all the hate, disrespect, and imbalances in life. It also says that "All things will be revealed".
We continuously put the blame on other life forms. Humans are the ones that have corrupted this world. There is no ego large enough that will save anyone when the time comes for change.
I for one am not against these Dogmen, I am just trying to discover what the real truth is, but in the meantime, there is no reason to be malevolent towards Dogmen or other areas of life.
Humans are NOT without fault.
As a species, we need to work on ourselves before judging other life forms.
All this interest in Dogmen is interesting, fascinating and inspiring, but the blood lust here towards Dogmen is really unnecessary. People are not always the saints and heroes they purport themselves to be. Our past SHAMEFUL history as a species is not something that I take pride in, and there are other life forms among us keeping an eye on things.
A little humility and respect for the life around us is not a bad thing. My 2 cents for the day, and don't worry, I won't post anything more here. Good day everyone.
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Post by ag47 on Jan 19, 2017 21:21:48 GMT
Wolf kin, Arguing with yourself? You must be, because I've said it several times and so have others -
HERE IT IS AGAIN FOR THOSE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE:
I have no malice toward any animal species. I have no malice toward anyone. Can you not read? -------------------------------A lot of people don't believe evil exists. Doesn't matter. Our beliefs do not change what is. Gosh, did I say that already? Is there an echo in here? Yes, you're right on one thing: people are evil. We are all inherently evil because we inherit the legacy of being fallen from grace, a state from which we are unable to extricate ourselves without very special (divine) help. Sorry to inform you but that includes you, snowflake. You come here and attack us, putting words in our mouths that we did not say. I would like to suggest you knock it off. I feel fairly safe in saying that no one here appreciates it. One of the most egregious aspects of what you propose people do is that you will encourage clueless people to go out into where these sightings have occurred, and possibly be killed. Such an 'expedition' would be particularly alluring to a bunch of teenagers looking for thrills. This is irresponsible and I, for one, am not going to sit by and not respond to it. I'm not suggesting any harm to anything, just common sense, which you seem to be lacking. Any time, folks. P.S. - Some reference material here. (scroll down)
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Post by Crow on Jan 20, 2017 2:04:48 GMT
'Es lässt sich nicht lesen'
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Post by gagunslinger on Jan 21, 2017 2:12:14 GMT
Ok I read wolf kins post on DFRO website it sounds more like a bigfoot than a DM Sighting. here is an excerpt from his DFRO Post.
... I was in a very specific area where dogmen frequent, and suddenly the tree line in the distance came alive with what sounded like 50 coyotes howling, and after a couple minutes it all stopped just as abruptly as it began,. And then a dogman smacked a rock against a tree or something that made a loud "thunk" sound, and I could hear something shifting it's weight within the trees next to me. I talked to the dogman and shared my feelings and intentions, and I was not even growled at. It allowed me to pass through unharmed, and I was alone, unarmed and this was at 2am so your wrong about them. I have first hand experience with dogmen, so I know personally that they are not exclusively aggressive...
Wolf Kins, you need to know tree knocking is more related to bigfoot activity so is the weight shifting. both bigfoot and DM have been known from time to time to run with coyotes. so this particular sighting/experience you sight is more reminiscent of a bigfoot sighting not DM.
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Post by ag47 on Jan 21, 2017 20:21:18 GMT
Hi gunslinger,
I think he believes he has the inside track, and we are all a bunch of evil people who hate animals, or something. He is going to end up like Treadwell or on Dave Paulides next 411 case report.
Personally, I'm very interested in just finding out what all this stuff is. If I was physically able to get out into the areas where sightings have occurred, I'd love to be part of an investigative expedition, but I'm just not able to do much of that stuff anymore.
Hope you find something for us. Get some good footage!
-Silver
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Post by ag47 on Jan 22, 2017 1:24:58 GMT
Aw, crow, c'mon, I love cats! I have always had cats, and I also love rabbits. I really do. Dogs are fine too, but most seem to want to bite me. Once in a while I find a dog that likes me. I once volunteered to take a bite from a German Shepard police dog. All I had on was an arm guard (glad he didn't decide he wanted something other than my arm). OMG they can bite HARD!! He bit his tongue until it bled and they had to pull him off of me, as he just stopped obeying once he had hold of me. So I'm a little skittish around dogs. --skittish around dogs....and dogman....
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Post by ag47 on Jan 22, 2017 12:21:54 GMT
Crow, do you pee yourself often? I'm sorry, I couldn't resist, LOL. I undestand, I've stepped in my share of various pet leavings. Cat poop is, imho, the worst-smelling of all, and the hardest to get off one's shoes. I still love 'em. I don't have any pets now, but I've had some wonderful animals. The bunnies were the sweetest, and the most prolific mess-makers.
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Post by Wolf kin on Jan 23, 2017 8:56:07 GMT
I can see that I have have stirred up some of you here, so I will try to clarify my thoughts and intentions.
What I brought to the table here was my humility and openness regarding the subject of Dogmen. Many people are not going to understand the way I feel about this.
When I criticize people, I am merely acknowledging what my own species has done to this world and other areas of life. People have changed a natural world into a very unnatural one.
When it comes to the Dogmen, I am trying to think and feel like they do. I'm trying to see things from their perspective. Perhaps the Dogmen see people as a threat to their way of life. I am not too proud or egotistical to contemplate on this.
It also concerns me that people are going to start looking for Dogmen and shoot at every one they find. Episode 130 suggested this. I'm very upset about this. We want to protect people without considering the requirements of other life forms, that is my argument. My experiences in dogman areas are not meant to inspire people to go looking for Dogmen, or get into a dangerous situation. I share my experiences to add dimension to the dogman subject, and I realize I will need proof of my experiences before people will believe in them.
I don't have the time, money and equipment to gather facts like other people can.
It was not my intention to come here and attack you people with accusations and insults. I am concerned about something else that is out there, and my approach to this, will likely not be understood.
My mission is one of respect and understanding regarding the Dogmen. My criticizing people is just my way of being open to the subject and situation regarding the Dogmen.
Along with protecting ourselves, we also need to be understanding and compassionate enough to acknowledge their kind and what their needs and requirements are.
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Post by Crow on Jan 24, 2017 18:58:13 GMT
FFS. Nobody cares.
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Post by AL on Jan 27, 2017 2:47:48 GMT
crazy
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