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Post by person on Nov 24, 2017 16:55:34 GMT
I will explain it as well as I can. So, in The Legend song by Steve Cook, he points out that every 10 years on the 7th year, the dogman can be spotted whether it's an attack or not. And coincidentally, the same year that the song came out, in 1987, there was an animal attack on a cabin near Luther in Michigan. The cop that took to the duty of checking it out noticed large scratches and claw marks, high off the ground, and outside of one of the windows he saw a large paw print that could ONLY have been made by a dog or doglike animal.
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Post by whitefeather on Nov 27, 2017 3:52:57 GMT
Thank you,
I've never heard of Steve Cook or that song, I'll have to listen to it. Do you know if the song was inspired by actual events or local folklore?
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Post by bryanb on Nov 27, 2017 4:05:27 GMT
Thank you, I've never heard of Steve Cook or that song, I'll have to listen to it. Do you know if the song was inspired by actual events or local folklore? Supposedly the song is about actual events. I've not put the effort to verify that, just what I've heard from a few people.
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Post by ag47 on Nov 27, 2017 13:16:03 GMT
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Post by person on Nov 28, 2017 22:01:46 GMT
The thing that gets me is the cabin attack. That was real. I don't think they ever identified a true culprit.
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Post by kaipo on Sept 11, 2018 5:06:32 GMT
Wow... I just took about 30 minutes telling my encounter story and after I submitted it, it didn't go through and showed up as a blank message... yeah I'll retype that some other day sorry guys :/ that was a really cruddy mess up.
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Post by ag47 on Sept 11, 2018 17:39:58 GMT
-kaipo- I once knew of a guy who kicked a computer across the floor when that happened, lol. Sorry you had that experience.
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Post by beowulf50 on Oct 15, 2018 5:16:13 GMT
I am very upset to hear from a team member of yours, that the purpose of your group is to gather information on Dogmen so that humans can attempt to commit genocide against their species. People have populated and taken most everything over, and have been very cruel towards many areas of life over the years. These are the dogmens homelands as well as ours. I hope you will consider combining respect, compassion and understanding towards their kind, and instead of focusing on killing them, we need to find out what THEIR needs are, and if humans as a species have done anything to impact the dogmans way of life. There is no need to be barbaric towards Dogmen, even though there are Dogmen that may have harmed people in the past, that doesn't mean they are all that way. If you are going after random Dogmen that have not done anything to people other than perhaps display their displeasure with us, that is not justice. It's not right. I went to a known dogman area yesterday to share things with the Dogmen. I also cried while I was there. My encounters with Dogmen over the past 3 years have not been aggressive. I am also determined to protect them, by revealing facts and truths related to my own personal experiences with them. I am not going to sit by as my own species continues to destroy and disrespect other life forms. This needs to stop. I am one person standing against the entire world determined to fear and hate, rather than trying to respect and understand things. I will be working more closely with Dogmen in the future to find out what their needs are, and try to get some answers directly from them. People talk about Dogmen communicating telepathically with people. One of my goals is to meet with one of these Dogmen personally, or even a group of them, no guns, no hatred, no bloodlust towards them, just to find out what their side of the story is. That is what I am most interested in. How THEY feel about things. They have a right to a say in all of this as well. I myself had an encounter with what I believe to be a dogman. It never went bi-pedal, but it was well over four feet in height at the shoulders and ran fast as a cheetah (if not faster). The body mechanics of how it ran were similar to a cheetah or whippet, but it was huge, about the size of a large calf if not bigger. I know of no animal that size that can run as fast as this thing did. I was with a group of other men and some of us were armed with pistols. It was very bright that night and visibility was quite good. I am a level headed person whom has been in bad situations and this encounter induced a pretty significant adrenaline dump. I myself had a shotgun with 00 buck. It ran from the center of the woodline to the middle of the field and then turned ON A DIME and charged us. Upon raising my gun at it, it began to zig zag very, VERY quickly. At that moment the thought that it knew what a firearm was hit me and I remember saying out loud that it knew we were pointing guns at it. We broke contact at that point and ran to our vehicles and left the area. It chased the cars as we were departing. I now am of the opinion it is not just a run of the mill animal due to the intelligence level it possessed, and I also believe it did not intend to harm us but rather just wanted to force us out of its territory. Mainly because at the speed it moved, it could have been upon us before we ever made it back to the car. Also, it did not use the woodline for concealment (it was on the edge of the woodline when we first acquired it), but it ran to the center of the field almost as if it wanted us to see it before it began its charge. I'm not sure what it is but I do have my theory and I believe when it acts aggressively towards humans it may be due to humans always killing (or attempting to kill) anything we don't understand or fear. Centuries of experiences like this may have driven them to have high disdain for humans. I don't want to kill them any more. I just want to find out exactly what I'd encountered that night, and prove their existence if it in fact was a dogman. I've no idea where these things come from, cynocephali, Anubis, alien, inter-dimensionals, demons, supernatural, or whatever, but I believe if they do exist, they have been around ever since mankind has and have a right to be here just as we do. I think there might also be a possibility of the government reverse engineering them if they have been around that long. If it turns out they really are evil then yeah, they all need to be slain. But I'd say it's probably more a case of them just not liking humans because of what we have done to them for centuries. In which case it would be prudent to take a more "I'm cool with you if you're cool with me" approach.EDITED TO ADD.... Unless you tryna kill me, then Ima go full blown Kung Fu panda on your &%#! Even though it wouldn't do any good.
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Post by ag47 on Oct 15, 2018 16:21:56 GMT
This is old: That is not, nor has it ever been the purpose of NADP. It was posted by someone who wanted to argue with no one. If we go down that path again, I'm going to have to intervene.
beowulf, your post is fine, but don't give any weight to that comment you quoted making that accusation. It's not true, and, as I said, it's old. I could delete it, but I think it was addressed in the conversation at the time.
That's a frightening account of your encounter. Very interesting. Thank you for sharing it.
Welcome.
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Post by kaipo on Oct 15, 2018 20:23:36 GMT
I am very upset to hear from a team member of yours, that the purpose of your group is to gather information on Dogmen so that humans can attempt to commit genocide against their species. People have populated and taken most everything over, and have been very cruel towards many areas of life over the years. These are the dogmens homelands as well as ours. I hope you will consider combining respect, compassion and understanding towards their kind, and instead of focusing on killing them, we need to find out what THEIR needs are, and if humans as a species have done anything to impact the dogmans way of life. There is no need to be barbaric towards Dogmen, even though there are Dogmen that may have harmed people in the past, that doesn't mean they are all that way. If you are going after random Dogmen that have not done anything to people other than perhaps display their displeasure with us, that is not justice. It's not right. I went to a known dogman area yesterday to share things with the Dogmen. I also cried while I was there. My encounters with Dogmen over the past 3 years have not been aggressive. I am also determined to protect them, by revealing facts and truths related to my own personal experiences with them. I am not going to sit by as my own species continues to destroy and disrespect other life forms. This needs to stop. I am one person standing against the entire world determined to fear and hate, rather than trying to respect and understand things. I will be working more closely with Dogmen in the future to find out what their needs are, and try to get some answers directly from them. People talk about Dogmen communicating telepathically with people. One of my goals is to meet with one of these Dogmen personally, or even a group of them, no guns, no hatred, no bloodlust towards them, just to find out what their side of the story is. That is what I am most interested in. How THEY feel about things. They have a right to a say in all of this as well. I myself had an encounter with what I believe to be a dogman. It never went bi-pedal, but it was well over four feet in height at the shoulders and ran fast as a cheetah (if not faster). The body mechanics of how it ran were similar to a cheetah or whippet, but it was huge, about the size of a large calf if not bigger. I know of no animal that size that can run as fast as this thing did. I was with a group of other men and some of us were armed with pistols. It was very bright that night and visibility was quite good. I am a level headed person whom has been in bad situations and this encounter induced a pretty significant adrenaline dump. I myself had a shotgun with 00 buck. It ran from the center of the woodline to the middle of the field and then turned ON A DIME and charged us. Upon raising my gun at it, it began to zig zag very, VERY quickly. At that moment the thought that it knew what a firearm was hit me and I remember saying out loud that it knew we were pointing guns at it. We broke contact at that point and ran to our vehicles and left the area. It chased the cars as we were departing. I now am of the opinion it is not just a run of the mill animal due to the intelligence level it possessed, and I also believe it did not intend to harm us but rather just wanted to force us out of its territory. Mainly because at the speed it moved, it could have been upon us before we ever made it back to the car. Also, it did not use the woodline for concealment (it was on the edge of the woodline when we first acquired it), but it ran to the center of the field almost as if it wanted us to see it before it began its charge. I'm not sure what it is but I do have my theory and I believe when it acts aggressively towards humans it may be due to humans always killing (or attempting to kill) anything we don't understand or fear. Centuries of experiences like this may have driven them to have high disdain for humans. I don't want to kill them any more. I just want to find out exactly what I'd encountered that night, and prove their existence if it in fact was a dogman. I've no idea where these things come from, cynocephali, Anubis, alien, inter-dimensionals, demons, supernatural, or whatever, but I believe if they do exist, they have been around ever since mankind has and have a right to be here just as we do. I think there might also be a possibility of the government reverse engineering them if they have been around that long. If it turns out they really are evil then yeah, they all need to be slain. But I'd say it's probably more a case of them just not liking humans because of what we have done to them for centuries. In which case it would be prudent to take a more "I'm cool with you if you're cool with me" approach.EDITED TO ADD.... Unless you tryna kill me, then Ima go full blown Kung Fu panda on your &%#! Even though it wouldn't do any good. Thank you for sharing your encounter with us Beowolf. Great name by the way. I have ideas as to what they are, mostly natural biological. But I 100% agree with you that they are intelligent like humans are. You should look at the thread that is discussing ways to communicate with them. A few of us are trying to find a way to develop a form of communication that would be understandable on a first encounter that would allow friendly... or neutral interaction. I've come up with a few ideas like using art pictures and concepts of sign language and finger pointing as well as gift exchanges. I do know what thing though, avoid going into the areas they sleep. They don't like that and they will come into your house or the place you are staying at to make a very blunt point that you entered their home without asking and they'll do the same... especially if there are pups.
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Post by geisthunter1 on Apr 28, 2019 0:10:33 GMT
A couple months ago two friends and I were out cold weather camping in Newton Illinois on their property. Nice clear sky and a bright 3/4 moon really didn't need a flashlight at all. Coyotes are thick as thieves out there so it's not uncommon to hear them pretty close. Well we had just finished eating and were small talking around the fire when we started hearing owls. We were listening to what seemed like 3 different ones hoot back and forth for about 20min seemed like they were a couple hundred yards apart. We both commented on how loud they were and decided maybe it was time to get some shut eye. One of my friends jumped in his tent (he has a problem with his immune system so he gets sick easy.) Didn't have the heart to tell him he couldn't tag along so we pretty much buried him under a ton of blankets. And we just crawled in our sleeping bags at the fire and stargazed a bit. The hoots started getting closer and we could hear some coyotes running around and yipping at eachother in the field near by. Not a big deal we all take firearms out there with us for protection because the coyotes have recently been killing young livestock and pets in the area. If there's enough of them in a pack I doubt they'd think twice about trying their luck on a human being. Then the hooting stopped. The last one we heard was probably 100yards away. We looked at eachother just as a hoot went off in the tree above the tent. ONLY and this is the part that freaks me out the most that it was so close and we didn't even know it. About halfway through when the hoots start winding down usually, it breaks into this almost screaming/growl sound. I break the zipper on my bag, scrambling for my AR . When I grab ahold of it I look at my buddy who was making contact with his own weapon and his eyes looked like they were about to pop out of his head. We throw our backs up against the tent flap and start trying to wake our friend up while almost spinning our heads off trying to see whatever there was to see. We finally got him to respond and as soon as he asked what was wrong whatever it was burst from behind the tent through the brush and dead trees we were using for our fire. It ran up the little walking path up into the field. (Where we had come from about three hours prior to this, back from a night walk/hike across his property). It started running away through the brush on two legs and as soon as it hit the trail dropped onto all fours and turned it's head back to look at us. Front legs clearly larger and longer and the front. It had short ears , grey fur and it had snout that reminded me of a doberman. The fire light flickering didn't let me get a good look at its teeth or eyes though. We grabbed our blankets and guns and slept at the house that night and went back to clean up the camp sight the next morning. Couldn't find any prints but our fire was scattered and had a large green branch in it. Like maybe it came back and beat it with a large stick into it was scattered. I'm definitely glad our sleeping beauty didn't have to see that I'm not sure he could have handled it, I know my friend refuses to talk about it everytime I bring it up he just gets quiet and changes the subject. I don't have nightmares or anything like that but I refuse to go into the woods or camping without a gun now. And so does he.
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Post by ag47 on Apr 28, 2019 3:55:59 GMT
geisthunter, did you have info/input on that encounter you quoted?
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Post by KHEM on Jun 22, 2020 0:32:06 GMT
For those of you that have not discovered this info yet, there is a website called "DOGMAN Encounters with Jeffrey Nadolny" on you tube that adds another perspective on how the dogman has been introduced and used for a purpose by a secret government project that has been allowed to come in to the open to a degree. The gov't agent that communicates with him is on that project and so can give out a certain amount of info in it. The videos which share his communications with Jeffrey Nadolny all will have the words "dogman government agent" in their titles, so you won't have to listen to a couple hundred other videos to locte the very interesting info given. www.youtube.com/channel/UC3-MLQdVpwcRyhvNRk6Ypbw/videos
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Post by trolljegeren on Jun 22, 2020 18:21:56 GMT
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Post by Drakony on Mar 22, 2022 1:56:04 GMT
You think I'm nuts, just because I want to reach out and make peace with Dogmen? Why are you people so bitter about that? Most people only know how to hate and fear things. I think your just put out because someone out there has the courage to do something in a way that no one else would dare to. That doesn't make me nuts. My encounters with Dogmen are passive because that is the way that I approached THEM. I showed them trust and respect first, despite all the negative claims people were making against them, whether true or not, but my experiences have proven to myself so far, that the way you approach them is the way they will approach you back. Did you try to discover the Dogmen so you could destroy them, or did you seek them out for peaceful reasons. I feel they are very intuitive about people. I don't go looking for Dogmen armed. For one thing, I hate guns, and second, I wasn't there planning to defend myself against them, because I didn't go there giving them any reason to want to. I always acknowledge them when I'm out, respect them, ask their permission to be in their territories. I approach them very softly, but they are smart, and can likely tell if someone is just bluffing them with gifts or niceness. What comes from your heart is the real you, you can't easily hide that. Yes my ways are different from people going through the woods with guns, but these Dogmen are very intelligent. That is one of the things that put me at ease towards them from the beginning. No one has to follow in my footsteps. I'm just sharing my experiences with Dogmen. This world is full of hateful people. If the risk of being around Dogmen is so high like you say it is, I would not be here. I knew very well, what Dogmen were capable of, by listening to other people's stories and encounters. That still did not give ME as an individual a reason to fear them or not trust them, because I don't know what the circumstances were regarding WHY the Dogmen confront certain individuals in an aggressive manor. Maybe it's something about a person, Intuition that makes a dogman aggressive towards someone. Animals can sense things, Dogmen likely can too. Life is a journey, and I'm out there to learn more about it. If my passive methods disgust you so, maybe you just never considered it to be possible. If the Dogmen are attacking and chasing you while on THEIR turf, I'm wondering what it was you did to ruffle their fur, because when I go searching for Dogmen and reach out and call out to them, they are passive towards me. I'm not crazy, and I'm not being an idiot, I'm just being honest. I'm just being me.
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