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Post by Con on Oct 14, 2019 22:43:49 GMT
Yeah, it's a really weird feeling. Localised, so it was in that area, and my mind was in a totally different place before I stumbled into it, so I know I wasn't imagining it. Sounds like you had a similar experience, pretty strange. I haven't felt it since. I wish I could go back, but I moved back to the UK 2 years ago so I can't go looking into it. It's typical I get into all the dogman stuff after I leave the only place where I have constant access to the outdoors!
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Post by DogFlabber on Oct 15, 2019 5:21:08 GMT
When I was just about finished I started becoming more aware of the woods around me and I started getting a sense of urgency to get out of there, like someone or something was watching me. It's funny how almost everyone that has an encounter gets this feeling of being watched or become very afraid right before they see something, even some report that the forest goes silent, no sounds of insects, or birds, I even heard one person reported that the wind even stopped blowing. I have heard this in so many reports that it is hard for me to ignore it any longer, and hard for me to think that this is a prehistoric animal that stops the insects birds and wind, and causes people to experience and extreme amount of fear even before they see anything or even hear anything. Who knows there may be many different types of creatures that we are having encounters with and I am just trying to lump them all together, I really cannot say. I am just now starting to look into all of this. I also once had a moment like this in the woods, I was going to say deep woods, but I know that there are some real woodsmen here that would laugh at me. I just happened to be lost at the time or just starting to realize I was lost, I was trying to find my way back to the camp, after a long day of deer hunting, which may have had a little to do with strengthening the feeling I got. I was walking through the woods for about 2.5 hours, and came upon this section of woods , that seemed to change, and don't know why but it seemed to get darker there, and everything seemed to go silent, well no doubt was very silent and I just felt sick to my stomach. Felt like a dead part of the woods, I felt the presents of something evil there, I first thought that maybe a bunch of people had died out there, but then just realized that there was something evil out there, and felt like I was going to die out there, felt like I was being watched, felt like I was going to start crying, started to feel confused and almost started walking in another direction , well actually was zig zaging through the woods, trying to find openings big enough to walk through, while maintaining the same direction the compass was telling me I had to go, but, I started to doubt the compass, and started thinking I needed to try a different direction. I stopped and wondered if I should wait for a search party to come and find me, it was about 45 minutes before dark, Then I said to myself, what the heck are you doing, there is something evil here, and you need to get out of here as fast as you can. I was able to pull myself together, and continued on the correct heading of the compass even though the woods were almost too thick to walk through, with briers, sticker bushes and thorny bushes, and small trees. Finally I was able to find a road about an hour after dark, and another hunter picked me up on the road, and brought me back to camp. Come to find out I came out on a road only about 1/4 mile from the camp. Pretty scary feeling getting lost in the woods when its getting dark.
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Post by DogFlabber on Oct 15, 2019 5:37:18 GMT
Ps After I walked about 15-20 minutes from the dark area of woods, even though I was still lost as a goose and thought I was going to have to sleep in the woods that night with the hogs, I started to feel a feeling of relief but did keep looking behind me.
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Post by DogFlabber on Oct 15, 2019 6:59:45 GMT
WhiteFeather,
When I was planning a trip to Alaska, I was doing a lot of research on how to defend myself from bears, because I had never been in bear country before. What surpized me was I read articles that said you were more likely to get killed from dogs than bears, and as most farmers know that when you get 3 or more dogs together, the get pretty scary sometimes they could be someones pet but when they bunch up in the outdoors they can become wild and savage, and take down sheep, and calves. Even the very small dogs.
My brother is a big believer in carrying a very large pocket knife not to defend against wild animals or people but for dogs, he says that his large pocket knife has saved his life on several occasions against pit bulls, one was running towards him and about to jump through the air for him, but he has this knife that makes a very loud sound when it is opened, kind of like a gun being chambered and he said when the pit bull heard that sound he almost changed direction just in time. If it would not have been for the knife he would have been attacked, and maybe killed.
You need one with a 5.5 inch blade.
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Post by Con on Oct 25, 2019 22:43:00 GMT
Your story about being in the woods as it's getting dark reminds me of the time I went up into the hills and was there for around 8 hours or so, and when I got home it had only just gotten dark. Back when I did all my hiking and trail running on my own, before I had even heard of dogman. I probably wouldn't have been so stupid now, that's for sure.
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Post by DogFlabber on Oct 31, 2019 1:56:50 GMT
Your story about being in the woods as it's getting dark reminds me of the time I went up into the hills and was there for around 8 hours or so, and when I got home it had only just gotten dark. Back when I did all my hiking and trail running on my own, before I had even heard of dogman. I probably wouldn't have been so stupid now, that's for sure. Con, I have to admit that I feel like you do when it comes to walking around in the woods at night, I think it is much more dangerous than the day time, but I think most people feel that way. We tend to be a lot braver during the day. I am not so sure these things are really hurting people, but I could me mistaken, I do think your possibilities of having a terrifying encounter during the night increases a lot. I have only heard of one encounter on Sas. Ch. where the guy was actually hit by one of these things, but a lot of rocks and logs are thrown. It could be that they are just trying to scare us. I think that if we do have an encounter it is important to try to not show them fear, this will make them very happy. I always here of people running for their lives but I don't know what would happen if someone was to go towards them instead of running. I would never act aggressive towards one, but would consider holding my ground and even taking some steps towards one, instead of running, like a scared rabbit. If they were throwing large rocks at my head then, I would do the rabbit act.
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Post by ag47 on Oct 31, 2019 19:48:35 GMT
Kids did that to me in the city, lol. (true story - I don't know how a kid that small hurled a rock that big that far - it whizzed past my head).
All joking aside - I would dread walking outdoors at night in the dark. I'm not afraid of the dark, but what (or who) is in it that I can't see. We humans are crippled in the animal kingdom with the limited senses we have. Makes us easy prey.
There are all those people missing with no logical explanation. They are going somewhere. I'll bet it's not somewhere nice.
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 2, 2019 4:41:14 GMT
Kids did that to me in the city, lol. (true story - I don't know how a kid that small hurled a rock that big that far - it whizzed past my head). All joking aside - I would dread walking outdoors at night in the dark. I'm not afraid of the dark, but what (or who) is in it that I can't see. We humans are crippled in the animal kingdom with the limited senses we have. Makes us easy prey. There are all those people missing with no logical explanation. They are going somewhere. I'll bet it's not somewhere nice. Haha, yeah I guess you have a point there, I heard the New Youtube video when they were talking about LBL, and the guys that got killed, so looks like I have lots to learn about all this, its more dangerous than I thought.
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Post by Con on Nov 7, 2019 15:49:02 GMT
DogFlabber I agree, I don't think these guys are responsible for all of the missing people. At a guess, maybe only a very small few. From what we can gather, they're just too big to be behind it all the time, else I'm sure the public would know all about them by now. Not that I'd go out and test that theory of course! Yeah, their actions seem to suggest that they want us to leave the area more than anything else. Would make sense if there was a den nearby, or something we really wouldn't want to see. I've thought about what would happen if I were brave enough to just strike up conversation with one out of the blue. If they're sapient, I can imagine that'd take them by complete surprise. Might even make a friend, who knows? I could use a running partner lol!
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Post by Eoin on Nov 7, 2019 16:57:50 GMT
Kids did that to me in the city, lol. (true story - I don't know how a kid that small hurled a rock that big that far - it whizzed past my head). All joking aside - I would dread walking outdoors at night in the dark. I'm not afraid of the dark, but what (or who) is in it that I can't see. We humans are crippled in the animal kingdom with the limited senses we have. Makes us easy prey. There are all those people missing with no logical explanation. They are going somewhere. I'll bet it's not somewhere nice. Haha, yeah I guess you have a point there, I heard the New Youtube video when they were talking about LBL, and the guys that got killed, so looks like I have lots to learn about all this, its more dangerous than I thought. I have yet to see a police report or any quantifiable evidence regarding any attack in LBL. Word of mouth is simply hearsay. I do continue to keep an open mind though!
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Post by Eoin on Nov 7, 2019 16:59:26 GMT
DogFlabber I agree, I don't think these guys are responsible for all of the missing people. At a guess, maybe only a very small few. From what we can gather, they're just too big to be behind it all the time, else I'm sure the public would know all about them by now. Not that I'd go out and test that theory of course! Yeah, their actions seem to suggest that they want us to leave the area more than anything else. Would make sense if there was a den nearby, or something we really wouldn't want to see. I've thought about what would happen if I were brave enough to just strike up conversation with one out of the blue. If they're sapient, I can imagine that'd take them by complete surprise. Might even make a friend, who knows? I could use a running partner lol! I would be up for a friendly wave from 100 yards away.
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Post by Con on Nov 7, 2019 17:49:29 GMT
Lol yeah, I dunno how I'd feel about saying hi if they popped up within a few meters of me! Might end up being a quick chat before dinner in that case.
I've always seen the LBL case as a kind of "Red Riding Hood" story since there's no official documents about it as far as I know. It probably didn't happen but it's a good warning story about the dangers of this kind of stuff.
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Post by Eoin on Nov 7, 2019 19:55:04 GMT
Lol yeah, I dunno how I'd feel about saying hi if they popped up within a few meters of me! Might end up being a quick chat before dinner in that case. I've always seen the LBL case as a kind of "Red Riding Hood" story since there's no official documents about it as far as I know. It probably didn't happen but it's a good warning story about the dangers of this kind of stuff. I’m in full agreement my friend. I have no doubts that there have been sightings in the LBL, just as I’m reasonably sure of sightings in other locals. The tales of attacks, mass carnage, etc, etc...I can only echo you in so much as I feel they are just tales, but also a good reminder to take our Dogman and, indeed, other Cryptids seriously and not let our natural bravado blind us of possible danger.
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Post by Con on Nov 7, 2019 23:26:06 GMT
Totally! I was out running a couple of days ago up a hill with a park on it near where I live. The park itself is very small, loads of trails, a road leading up the hill and is a popular spot right in the city, yet when it hit 4 PM and it was getting darker I started getting just a little scared. I make a habit of looking up a lot more nowadays, just in case, so I was on full alert. I'm more likely to be jumped by a junkie than anything cryptid related, doubly so in the middle of the city, but I was still on edge.
I feel like if nothing else, if people listen to DER on dogman stuff, or read up on the Missing 411 cases, they're already better aware of their world than people who don't, regardless of if the cryptid stuff is real or not. That in itself is a good thing I think, making people more aware of the world we live in.
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 8, 2019 2:31:17 GMT
Con,
Its a good thing you are vigilant while out running, and should always that way anywhere you are, criminals have said that they attack most people that are not aware of their presence. I know its a lot of looking around because on a trail we want to be aware of snakes so we have to scan the ground but what about what could be in a tree or off to our side or behind us, or way way up in front of us, its a lot of looking around.
When I am out in the woods I am in predator mode, thinking there are other predators hunting me also, because these animals have to eat and im on the menu.
Interesting that you got that funny feeling while running, always trust those feelings and try to hone in on them, and try to find out if they are telling you more than the fact that you might just be in danger, you could pinpoint a location of this danger, next time you get this feeling. Of course its sometimes natural that we get an uncomfortable feeling when out in the woods when it starts to get dark, so might want to keep going out at that time to see if that is the case or there is something weird about this place, at that time.
I found a small creek back in the woods that gave me the creeps on more than one occasion and then went back to explore it, but when I got there it no longer gave me that feeling. Maybe what ever was there just moved on. I don't know.
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