DogFlabber
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 8, 2019 2:59:43 GMT
DogFlabber I agree, I don't think these guys are responsible for all of the missing people. At a guess, maybe only a very small few. From what we can gather, they're just too big to be behind it all the time, else I'm sure the public would know all about them by now. Not that I'd go out and test that theory of course! Yeah, their actions seem to suggest that they want us to leave the area more than anything else. Would make sense if there was a den nearby, or something we really wouldn't want to see. I've thought about what would happen if I were brave enough to just strike up conversation with one out of the blue. If they're sapient, I can imagine that'd take them by complete surprise. Might even make a friend, who knows? I could use a running partner lol! I would be up for a friendly wave from 100 yards away. haha, yeah thats funny Eoin, I guess that is the kind of encounter most of us want to have. As far as the hearsay thing about dead people, well we all have to believe what we want to and that is good. I lived outside of the US for many years where things got real bad, and the media was controlled by the government and where not allowed to report on the crime, but some news media did and got killed for it. We heard a lot of horror stories, mostly heard things from taxi drivers, but I believed every one of them, I was able to confirm that some of them were true, and some were put on the news, and heard some from first hand witnesses. I know what happens when the gov wants to keep things quiet, and they are good at it, but the truth always gets out. But I can also understand how it would be hard to believe stories of what we always thought of fictional creatures killing people. I have also read by some posters that missing 411 is mostly all exaggerated stories or some of the facts are left out, and I don't doubt that there is some of that, but I also believe that there is some truth to some of the stories as well. I even talked to a policeman about 411 and he said, nahh don't believe any of that, most people that go missing go missing because they want to disappear from a bad relationship or debt etc. Well its all a mystery, and some of those old old stories, that were told to us when we were kids really are true. haha
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Eoin
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Post by Eoin on Nov 8, 2019 3:27:08 GMT
I would be up for a friendly wave from 100 yards away. haha, yeah thats funny Eoin, I guess that is the kind of encounter most of us want to have. As far as the hearsay thing about dead people, well we all have to believe what we want to and that is good. I lived outside of the US for many years where things got real bad, and the media was controlled by the government and where not allowed to report on the crime, but some news media did and got killed for it. We heard a lot of horror stories, mostly heard things from taxi drivers, but I believed every one of them, I was able to confirm that some of them were true, and some were put on the news, and heard some from first hand witnesses. I know what happens when the gov wants to keep things quiet, and they are good at it, but the truth always gets out. But I can also understand how it would be hard to believe stories of what we always thought of fictional creatures killing people. I have also read by some posters that missing 411 is mostly all exaggerated stories or some of the facts are left out, and I don't doubt that there is some of that, but I also believe that there is some truth to some of the stories as well. I even talked to a policeman about 411 and he said, nahh don't believe any of that, most people that go missing go missing because they want to disappear from a bad relationship or debt etc. Well its all a mystery, and some of those old old stories, that were told to us when we were kids really are true. haha Well, I worked in the Counterintelligence community and so I know firsthand that what the average person knows or thinks they know is a fraction of what’s really happening and is sometimes pure disinformation. My statement is not a blanket one as we’re all aware a Skinwalker in the guise of a hybrid wolf/human would be if not highly dangerous just plain deadly. My belief is that the gore and goo gossiped about regarding LBL is based on nothing but hearsay. If shown quantifiable, irrefutable evidence then that’s another story (no pun intended).
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DogFlabber
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 8, 2019 5:56:30 GMT
haha, yeah thats funny Eoin, I guess that is the kind of encounter most of us want to have. As far as the hearsay thing about dead people, well we all have to believe what we want to and that is good. I lived outside of the US for many years where things got real bad, and the media was controlled by the government and where not allowed to report on the crime, but some news media did and got killed for it. We heard a lot of horror stories, mostly heard things from taxi drivers, but I believed every one of them, I was able to confirm that some of them were true, and some were put on the news, and heard some from first hand witnesses. I know what happens when the gov wants to keep things quiet, and they are good at it, but the truth always gets out. But I can also understand how it would be hard to believe stories of what we always thought of fictional creatures killing people. I have also read by some posters that missing 411 is mostly all exaggerated stories or some of the facts are left out, and I don't doubt that there is some of that, but I also believe that there is some truth to some of the stories as well. I even talked to a policeman about 411 and he said, nahh don't believe any of that, most people that go missing go missing because they want to disappear from a bad relationship or debt etc. Well its all a mystery, and some of those old old stories, that were told to us when we were kids really are true. haha Well, I worked in the Counterintelligence community and so I know firsthand that what the average person knows or thinks they know is a fraction of what’s really happening and is sometimes pure disinformation. My statement is not a blanket one as we’re all aware a Skinwalker in the guise of a hybrid wolf/human would be if not highly dangerous just plain deadly. My belief is that the gore and goo gossiped about regarding LBL is based on nothing but hearsay. If shown quantifiable, irrefutable evidence then that’s another story (no pun intended) Eoin, you could very well be right about that, I have never been there, I can only go by rumors. I understand that some of the researchers are going there to check things out, and I admire their bravery for that.
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Post by Con on Nov 8, 2019 11:45:14 GMT
DogFlabber I've had that "dreadsense" feeling near a friend's apartment in a bad neighbourhood. It was localised, only happened at night. Was near the bus station in the area at first, second time was also at night, and when I got lost looking for the bus station again, I ended up in a pitch black wooded park, and the feeling went away there. Went back to the lit streets and it came back. Your body definitely tells you when things are afoot. Even when I was younger and never believed in this stuff, I always kept my eyes open for any criminal types or stray dogs anyway, just in case. I'm just now even more observant lol I've talked to many people from different walks of life as well, and heard online from people that the cases of these missing people is exaggerated, but I have a feeling they're just wanting to stay wilfully ignorant. It freaked me out to realise that the feeling I had back when I lived in the Med could have very well been a werewolf-like cryptid (or something else entirely) hiding only a few dozen meters from me, and that I was potentially at it's mercy. Eoin I believe you, there's so much stuff going on all the time, I wouldn't be surprised if we were already developing all sorts of terrifying things. I've always wanted to meet someone who worked at MI6 or in the CIA and ask them about the weird, freaky paranormal stuff. I wondered if they have specialised units for dealing with paranormal stuff, something like in the video game F.E.A.R?
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Post by ag47 on Nov 8, 2019 13:39:13 GMT
I've read accounts and heard people tell of being involved in recovery of crashed UFO's, etc.. There have been some cryptid accounts where unmarked military units were alleged to have shown up to deal with whatever boogeyman they had encountered. I remember one where it was bigfoot and the significant thing was the ones they encountered had eyes that reflected red, which piqued immediate interest in the "black helicopter" types who showed up and dealt with them, also silenced the witnesses with threats of prosecution, etc.. As with all of this stuff, no proof, but it's intriguing. Makes for interesting reading late at night in the dark. The MIB stories too. There are actually some photos/video that purport to be MIBs.
I would wonder what D.A.R.P.A. gets up to. With any new and promising tech, it seems such agencies ask, "Can it be weaponized, and how?" D.A.R.P.A. was actively funding and promoting robotics and A.I. software to drive the robots. They actually gave out some hardware to some university robotics departments (I think it was a robotic arm and more). Their request was for the development of the ability of a robot to identify objects in different states and positions (like, for example, a T-Shirt folded, a T-Shirt worn, a T-Shirt on the ground, etc.). They gave out a lot of money on this, and probably are. There was and probably still is a group or groups of college robotics and A.I. lead professors and experts who were actively campaigning against the development and deployment of autonomous lethal weapons systems. Now if that doesn't define a Terminator, I don't know what does. They may not be as elegant as the ones in the movies (yet), but such a device could darn sure kill us, and would inevitably misidentify innocents and kill them. The self-driving cars smashed up some people already. Makes me think of Will Smith in the movie adaptation of I, Robot, where he is attacked by robots in his car. As they smash out his windshield and amass on his vehicle, one says to him, "You are experiencing an automobile accident." Will responds with a hearty, "Oh, Hell NO!" One of the best scenes.
With our knowledge of genetic manipulation we probably can't even imagine what kind of atrocities are being generated in undisclosed labs. I have a few ideas of who (what) might have done that in ancient history, but I won't start any flame wars.
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Post by Con on Nov 8, 2019 16:05:32 GMT
It's the unmarked military guys I'm really interested in. From what I've heard on the internet, they get kitted out with some weird tech for dealing with stuff, which makes me think of some James Bond/Men In Black film-esque inventor who's always telling them to be careful with the stuff because it's expensive. I've seen some of the real life MIB guys on YouTube, or supposedly they were. I wouldn't fancy a visit from them at all. Now I want a video game like Xcom but with supernatural threats instead of alien ones.
Yeah, automated war machines scare me a lot. I'm not so worried about them being sapient, for that we'd need to study consciousness more closely, which would mean eventually saying that ghosts were real which would probably end up with people blowing the lid on the other stuff too. But if the machines are smart enough to see threats, they could definitely see potential threats in civilians and target them, or even their own side. I do not like self-driving cars at all. I did some driving lessons a while ago and was a bit freaked out by that, but I sure as hell wouldn't like them to be automated at all. I love I,Robot, that was a great film!
We're probably cooking up all sorts of horrors in the labs. I wouldn't be surprised if we already had hybrid creatures and people with enhanced abilities.
If you want more conspiracy reading, check out the HAARP facility. Conspiracy theorists claim it can be used to manipulate the weather, which is always a fun prospect to think about (sarcasm).
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Eoin
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Post by Eoin on Nov 8, 2019 16:50:47 GMT
It's the unmarked military guys I'm really interested in. From what I've heard on the internet, they get kitted out with some weird tech for dealing with stuff, which makes me think of some James Bond/Men In Black film-esque inventor who's always telling them to be careful with the stuff because it's expensive. I've seen some of the real life MIB guys on YouTube, or supposedly they were. I wouldn't fancy a visit from them at all. Now I want a video game like Xcom but with supernatural threats instead of alien ones. Yeah, automated war machines scare me a lot. I'm not so worried about them being sapient, for that we'd need to study consciousness more closely, which would mean eventually saying that ghosts were real which would probably end up with people blowing the lid on the other stuff too. But if the machines are smart enough to see threats, they could definitely see potential threats in civilians and target them, or even their own side. I do not like self-driving cars at all. I did some driving lessons a while ago and was a bit freaked out by that, but I sure as hell wouldn't like them to be automated at all. I love I,Robot, that was a great film! We're probably cooking up all sorts of horrors in the labs. I wouldn't be surprised if we already had hybrid creatures and people with enhanced abilities. If you want more conspiracy reading, check out the HAARP facility. Conspiracy theorists claim it can be used to manipulate the weather, which is always a fun prospect to think about (sarcasm). The most I saw when working in that field was remote viewing and hypnosis to conduct intelligence ops.
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DogFlabber
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 8, 2019 18:43:17 GMT
Well we cannot stop technology, it is here and is coming, we already have drones that fly over and shoot and destroy targets in other countries while the pilot is sitting comfortably in the US. I would think we already have many different robotic prototypes that can go to war but is cost prohibitive at the moment, and it really does not scare me, I am sure that when they are put into use there will also be some guy sitting in a chair in the US with an over ride ability in case it makes a wrong turn. I am also sure that there is a self destruct switch to destroy these robots, in case one gets damaged and will fall into enemy hands.
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