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Post by talionranger on May 11, 2021 2:19:36 GMT
seems more and more details about these beings.
i guess they are no longer your average creature. but more supernatural and etc.
been finding out more details.
i heard they are weak against iron and herbs now besides silver? Also, gold and zinc? how can they be weak against those?
sounds like resident evil kinda of stuff.
so any idea what are these things?
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Post by somerandomuser on May 11, 2021 5:45:15 GMT
Dovakin is that you? Alduin after being banished from Tamriel ended up at my home at first it wasn't too bad he asked to borrow $3.50 and now won't get off my couch please help. Also thank you for using all lowercase never know when an accidental thuum can happen and more so over the internet like if Foos Roh Dah was all in caps I'd prolly be flying off my chair and bouncing off a wall so thank you.( all joking aside now)
Would you mind sharing the sources on iron, herbs, gold and zinc and their weakness to such materials. We had a discussion a while back where we discussed silver best we theorized is antibacterial properties ( people thought more of this as a disease and silver if the bullet doesn't kill it then the silver may cure it) also silver is harder than lead, which is what most civilian bullets will be made of (copper jacket or not it's lead underneath), which means more penetration. If these things have dense bones then this may explain as to why even high velocity big rounds are not putting them down. Now I have a bit of experience with shooting and I can tell you shot placement matters I have seen trained people who were civilians a couple of times shoot animals be it to deal with an attack (seen this once with a dog multiple shots near point blank range didn't do the job) or putting an injured animal (deer/antelope) down and failing to do so. So is it fear and people thinking they are hitting a target when they are not? Are we talking about something actually supernatural? Perhaps something natural but very well armored? I don't know I think overall the jury is still out as to what exactly they are although personal thoughts(beliefs) as to what they could be are pretty widespread.
For me personally I like evidence, for example if someone gave me a video which they acquired from a device, it has not been edited and everything is rather forensically sound where the video shows a bright light and one of these creatures materializing then we have something more. Eyewitness accounts are unreliable and more so with the untrained or when we are confronted with something very different. Also something to be aware of is that some of the encounters, narrations all that jazz may have embellishments or just plain incorrect facts of the incident because some people want to hide their information or investigative sites. So basically take what you hear in encounters with a grain of salt.
Edit: Wanted to add Welcome to the forum, overall a good bunch of people here and rather intelligent in addition to open minded.
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Post by talionranger on May 11, 2021 21:36:57 GMT
Dovakin is that you? Alduin after being banished from Tamriel ended up at my home at first it wasn't too bad he asked to borrow $3.50 and now won't get off my couch please help. Also thank you for using all lowercase never know when an accidental thuum can happen and more so over the internet like if Foos Roh Dah was all in caps I'd prolly be flying off my chair and bouncing off a wall so thank you.( all joking aside now) Would you mind sharing the sources on iron, herbs, gold and zinc and their weakness to such materials. We had a discussion a while back where we discussed silver best we theorized is antibacterial properties ( people thought more of this as a disease and silver if the bullet doesn't kill it then the silver may cure it) also silver is harder than lead, which is what most civilian bullets will be made of (copper jacket or not it's lead underneath), which means more penetration. If these things have dense bones then this may explain as to why even high velocity big rounds are not putting them down. Now I have a bit of experience with shooting and I can tell you shot placement matters I have seen trained people who were civilians a couple of times shoot animals be it to deal with an attack (seen this once with a dog multiple shots near point blank range didn't do the job) or putting an injured animal (deer/antelope) down and failing to do so. So is it fear and people thinking they are hitting a target when they are not? Are we talking about something actually supernatural? Perhaps something natural but very well armored? I don't know I think overall the jury is still out as to what exactly they are although personal thoughts(beliefs) as to what they could be are pretty widespread. For me personally I like evidence, for example if someone gave me a video which they acquired from a device, it has not been edited and everything is rather forensically sound where the video shows a bright light and one of these creatures materializing then we have something more. Eyewitness accounts are unreliable and more so with the untrained or when we are confronted with something very different. Also something to be aware of is that some of the encounters, narrations all that jazz may have embellishments or just plain incorrect facts of the incident because some people want to hide their information or investigative sites. So basically take what you hear in encounters with a grain of salt. Edit: Wanted to add Welcome to the forum, overall a good bunch of people here and rather intelligent in addition to open minded. lol. no worries. i understood references. yes it's me the true dovakin:) lol. i love skyrim, lol. i had discussions of herbs, iron and gold only on a discord on one server. was completely shock to hear this weakness. he wasn't sure how true it was. but, its sounds like its a common discussion here. i don't think bullets can kill it as we once thought. i think it would require a special bullet or special sword. swords would be more effective for combat purposes. from what i understand, they prefer to stalk and use stealth vin the darkness. its probably fear. cause these creatures are extremely fast. im assumed guns will not be effective. swords or an axe would be the most effective describe by vikings. it seems to be more now supernatural at this point. we all thought the same. we assumed there weakness are pathetic. but, now more details came. these are now an intelligent creatures like raptors. with them growing 9ft tall now. it has to be very well armored. only a few can kill it. but it must be a sword of something. like highlander weapons for instant. these details caught me off guard as well. the problem with eyewitnesses now. is from what i understand they are traumatized. so there stories would be jazzy and blind from what they saw. these beings of wendigo, skinwalkers, bigfoots, wolfman(or whatever you call it), new jersey devil and etc all have one thing in common. they are strong and well armored. with Vikings stories of werewolves and wendigos attacking there longhouses. im guessing these are something beyond a supernatural creature. once more weaknesses get revealed. but the question is can they kill one? reminds me of asgard with thor hammer. you have to be the worthy one to be able to kill it but with a special sword. thanks. im glad more people are willing to be open minded of these creatures. we all thought we knew everything about these beings. but these are proven to be false mindsets as more stories come forward. im curious why would they be weak against gold and zinc? how is that possible? what make them weak against them?
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Post by somerandomuser on May 12, 2021 1:13:52 GMT
lol. no worries. i understood references. yes it's me the true dovakin:) lol. i love skyrim, lol. i had discussions of herbs, iron and gold only on a discord on one server. was completely shock to hear this weakness. he wasn't sure how true it was. but, its sounds like its a common discussion here. i don't think bullets can kill it as we once thought. i think it would require a special bullet or special sword. swords would be more effective for combat purposes. from what i understand, they prefer to stalk and use stealth vin the darkness. its probably fear. cause these creatures are extremely fast. im assumed guns will not be effective. swords or an axe would be the most effective describe by vikings. it seems to be more now supernatural at this point. we all thought the same. we assumed there weakness are pathetic. but, now more details came. these are now an intelligent creatures like raptors. with them growing 9ft tall now. it has to be very well armored. only a few can kill it. but it must be a sword of something. like highlander weapons for instant. these details caught me off guard as well. the problem with eyewitnesses now. is from what i understand they are traumatized. so there stories would be jazzy and blind from what they saw. these beings of wendigo, skinwalkers, bigfoots, wolfman(or whatever you call it), new jersey devil and etc all have one thing in common. they are strong and well armored. with Vikings stories of werewolves and wendigos attacking there longhouses. im guessing these are something beyond a supernatural creature. once more weaknesses get revealed. but the question is can they kill one? reminds me of asgard with thor hammer. you have to be the worthy one to be able to kill it but with a special sword. thanks. im glad more people are willing to be open minded of these creatures. we all thought we knew everything about these beings. but these are proven to be false mindsets as more stories come forward. im curious why would they be weak against gold and zinc? how is that possible? what make them weak against them? I figured you liked Skyrim based on the avatar. I think fear plays a big part in why we get encounters with descriptions as "being evil", I always figure that it depends on the person like average person doesn't expect to see something absolutely strange, it's not a thought in their head where they go "Hey anything can be out there and I don't know everything". I remember a few times being in dicey situations where I was surprised and at the time everything looked bigger and much closer than it was, even after I start to process, really pay attention and act or react. There is a point when you start processing the situation where literally everything comes back into perspective the threat doesn't seem as close and you can actually look at it more rationally. There are reports of guns being effective and yet some where guns are ineffective, once again I think that is because the person is scared and engaging a target then assuming they are hitting the target. I don't believe I have heard of any encounter where one was shot where the person basically disabled the mechanics where they shoot the round impacts a collar bone or an arm and the creature loses use, not that anyone is trained that way but if I am surprised pistol in a holster soon as that pistol is out of the holster I am shooting to retention. A foot shot is a good shot if the target falls or is unable to function as normal and can be finished up. I like that you bring up the sagas as there are several out there some even with entire wars that last a decade or more with actual armies arrayed, of course back then all fighting was up close. Oddly the up close means that there is little doubt as to when a weapon makes contact perhaps that is why it is more effective being that up close one is better able to gauge when they've actually made the contact, but I guess one has to acknowledge the reality that very much this is a last stand scenario now where it is winner take all and let the Gods decide. It should be noted that Fenrir does have offspring according to the sagas I have always thought it's a nod to dogman being encountered. Once again zinc does have properties to help with the immune system I think it sounds a bit like silver where due to antibacterial properties it may cure the "disease". Also once again both materials listed are harder than lead so this leads me to ask how is the gold used? For example gold powder or a gold weapon or maybe we bribe the dogman, one would think that if it is being suggested there has to be an example of usage. www.jewelrynotes.com/the-mohs-scale-of-hardness-for-metals-why-it-is-important/#www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-zinc/art-20366112#orthop.washington.edu/patient-care/articles/arthritis/gold-treatment.html#geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml#dental
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Post by talionranger on May 12, 2021 17:16:15 GMT
lol. no worries. i understood references. yes it's me the true dovakin:) lol. i love skyrim, lol. i had discussions of herbs, iron and gold only on a discord on one server. was completely shock to hear this weakness. he wasn't sure how true it was. but, its sounds like its a common discussion here. i don't think bullets can kill it as we once thought. i think it would require a special bullet or special sword. swords would be more effective for combat purposes. from what i understand, they prefer to stalk and use stealth vin the darkness. its probably fear. cause these creatures are extremely fast. im assumed guns will not be effective. swords or an axe would be the most effective describe by vikings. it seems to be more now supernatural at this point. we all thought the same. we assumed there weakness are pathetic. but, now more details came. these are now an intelligent creatures like raptors. with them growing 9ft tall now. it has to be very well armored. only a few can kill it. but it must be a sword of something. like highlander weapons for instant. these details caught me off guard as well. the problem with eyewitnesses now. is from what i understand they are traumatized. so there stories would be jazzy and blind from what they saw. these beings of wendigo, skinwalkers, bigfoots, wolfman(or whatever you call it), new jersey devil and etc all have one thing in common. they are strong and well armored. with Vikings stories of werewolves and wendigos attacking there longhouses. im guessing these are something beyond a supernatural creature. once more weaknesses get revealed. but the question is can they kill one? reminds me of asgard with thor hammer. you have to be the worthy one to be able to kill it but with a special sword. thanks. im glad more people are willing to be open minded of these creatures. we all thought we knew everything about these beings. but these are proven to be false mindsets as more stories come forward. im curious why would they be weak against gold and zinc? how is that possible? what make them weak against them? I figured you liked Skyrim based on the avatar. I think fear plays a big part in why we get encounters with descriptions as "being evil", I always figure that it depends on the person like average person doesn't expect to see something absolutely strange, it's not a thought in their head where they go "Hey anything can be out there and I don't know everything". I remember a few times being in dicey situations where I was surprised and at the time everything looked bigger and much closer than it was, even after I start to process, really pay attention and act or react. There is a point when you start processing the situation where literally everything comes back into perspective the threat doesn't seem as close and you can actually look at it more rationally. There are reports of guns being effective and yet some where guns are ineffective, once again I think that is because the person is scared and engaging a target then assuming they are hitting the target. I don't believe I have heard of any encounter where one was shot where the person basically disabled the mechanics where they shoot the round impacts a collar bone or an arm and the creature loses use, not that anyone is trained that way but if I am surprised pistol in a holster soon as that pistol is out of the holster I am shooting to retention. A foot shot is a good shot if the target falls or is unable to function as normal and can be finished up. I like that you bring up the sagas as there are several out there some even with entire wars that last a decade or more with actual armies arrayed, of course back then all fighting was up close. Oddly the up close means that there is little doubt as to when a weapon makes contact perhaps that is why it is more effective being that up close one is better able to gauge when they've actually made the contact, but I guess one has to acknowledge the reality that very much this is a last stand scenario now where it is winner take all and let the Gods decide. It should be noted that Fenrir does have offspring according to the sagas I have always thought it's a nod to dogman being encountered. Once again zinc does have properties to help with the immune system I think it sounds a bit like silver where due to antibacterial properties it may cure the "disease". Also once again both materials listed are harder than lead so this leads me to ask how is the gold used? For example gold powder or a gold weapon or maybe we bribe the dogman, one would think that if it is being suggested there has to be an example of usage. www.jewelrynotes.com/the-mohs-scale-of-hardness-for-metals-why-it-is-important/#www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-zinc/art-20366112#orthop.washington.edu/patient-care/articles/arthritis/gold-treatment.html#geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml#dentaloh yeah. skyrim cool. especially the mods. i play xbox series for skyrim. consoles are easier to manage. unless your one of the user son pc version of skyrim to have thousand mods, lol. skyrim has all kinds of creatures of dragons and werewolves and giants. these creatures use fear very effectively. it destroys the person mind and tramu8atize there minds to confuse them. it the last resort to used when getting detected. so it convinces the humans to think it can kill it when not. oh yeah, another thing people forget. not all of these creatures are mean or would kill. there territory creatures only. they only kill if they have too. there actually been reports of these creatures scaring off people away from there location. so there territory place is there home. so they scare off anybody without killing them. unless they are a threat. guns are somewhat effective. but only if need. it would have to catch them off guard. but, mainly swords or axes are the best since when people die. they turn into them. so thats why there are more of these things. you never want to get close to them unless you want get turned. But, a sword can be a better protection on against these things. since they use to be people. so they would know how to react against a sword or axe. yes for last man standing scenarios. you have to accept your going to die, so before you do. you must prepare before you accept that reality of death is coming to you. question is, if you die in that fight. will the gods accept you? will it be your time? wars play a huge part to places like vahalla and etc. fenrir? one of the norse gods right? if so. imagine that would be case. another note to dogman. interesting. so perhaps there is something in the minerals that uses to be cured or something. so im thinking it has something that can be use to lure away the dogman or be used to cure it.
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Post by somerandomuser on May 12, 2021 20:17:46 GMT
Well traumatic situations tend to have very different responses sometimes they are repressed for years and at other times you live them constantly sometimes heck your dreams are just nothing but nightmares and you get comfortable with it and accept it. It really depends on the person in the end and how they deal with it and how often they are exposed to such things, people are very resilient when they apply themselves.
You know I have dealt with big cats and as previously I had mentioned there are healthy and unhealthy reactions by both wild and captive cats. It's totally normal for a wild lion to back a person off depending on proximity it's also normal that they will try to keep an eye on a person who is close. Imagine to wild animals 200 meters on foot is like 50 feet to them you are uncomfortably close. Basically knowing animal behavior and "tells" (when they are agitated or whatever) is important to being safer.
Fenrir is a wolf, basically it was very cute large wolf but became more angry/violent due to getting older and wilder then some of the Gods abused Fenrir as well in the end Odin and the Gods chained Fenrir and in the end of times Odin and a mortal man are to fight and kill Fenrir. That said according to the Viking sagas Fenrir has offspring and they are with man. The idea of large wolves with near human intelligence is in nearly every culture at least from my research from the Inuit Adlet to even ancient Greek/Macedonian/Persian stories; I like to point people towards "The Romances of Alexander" and "The Anabisis of Alexander" there is a story of Alexander the Great being either kidnapped or just living along side of dog headed men in "Asia" (modern day Turkey). Turkey has many stories about dog headed men including one where there was an invasion and a 16 year war (iirc).
As far as curing I guess it depends if you believe it is a transformation like with werewolves or if we are talking a creature such as dogman which may or may not be super natural or from another dimension or an alien species maybe even natural animal or an offspring of a fallen angel. This part depends on what you believe based on what you learn.
So you mentioned gold and zinc how exactly was it used in the encounter or information you gathered?
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Post by talionranger on May 13, 2021 1:17:43 GMT
Well traumatic situations tend to have very different responses sometimes they are repressed for years and at other times you live them constantly sometimes heck your dreams are just nothing but nightmares and you get comfortable with it and accept it. It really depends on the person in the end and how they deal with it and how often they are exposed to such things, people are very resilient when they apply themselves. You know I have dealt with big cats and as previously I had mentioned there are healthy and unhealthy reactions by both wild and captive cats. It's totally normal for a wild lion to back a person off depending on proximity it's also normal that they will try to keep an eye on a person who is close. Imagine to wild animals 200 meters on foot is like 50 feet to them you are uncomfortably close. Basically knowing animal behavior and "tells" (when they are agitated or whatever) is important to being safer. Fenrir is a wolf, basically it was very cute large wolf but became more angry/violent due to getting older and wilder then some of the Gods abused Fenrir as well in the end Odin and the Gods chained Fenrir and in the end of times Odin and a mortal man are to fight and kill Fenrir. That said according to the Viking sagas Fenrir has offspring and they are with man. The idea of large wolves with near human intelligence is in nearly every culture at least from my research from the Inuit Adlet to even ancient Greek/Macedonian/Persian stories; I like to point people towards "The Romances of Alexander" and "The Anabisis of Alexander" there is a story of Alexander the Great being either kidnapped or just living along side of dog headed men in "Asia" (modern day Turkey). Turkey has many stories about dog headed men including one where there was an invasion and a 16 year war (iirc). As far as curing I guess it depends if you believe it is a transformation like with werewolves or if we are talking a creature such as dogman which may or may not be super natural or from another dimension or an alien species maybe even natural animal or an offspring of a fallen angel. This part depends on what you believe based on what you learn. So you mentioned gold and zinc how exactly was it used in the encounter or information you gathered? thats true. creatures are smart to use these tactics very well. idk how they use it. im guessing one look an the person gets hit by it. oh yeah vikings did many battles with fenrir. i know greeks had encounetrs with dogman if i recalled. wasn't aware Macedonian and Persia. turkey as well? interesting. alexander was kidnapped? didn't know that story. i know egypt has anubis. well from what i understood. ufo's and dogman been reported being near from each other. im sure some are ufo experiment or natural or supernatural. wasn't sure. this was the first discussion i had with somebody mentioning those. had no idea those were another weakness.
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Post by somerandomuser on May 13, 2021 2:30:50 GMT
Turkey oddly seems to have quite a few I tend to enjoy history myself everything from politics of the time to battles and to mythology/stories/epics or sagas from different cultures from everywhere pretty much. The Greeks had King Lycaon who was turned into a dogman/werewolf creature but I really look at some pretty ancient and obscure texts not just in relation to the dogman phenomenon but because I love history and randomly I will stumble upon references of dog headed men and similar things, mind you translations can be iffy and it's up to the person translating a text.
Well I figure if aliens are coming here then they would be interested in the different animal species including humans running about, that's pretty much what any intelligent beings would do try to learn and further their knowledge. So it is entirely possible I am not sure if you have ever heard of the "Wilson Memo" basically it is a conversation between a general and a high ranking intel person where the general wants info on UFO's and they are told no and all research is handled by companies well they mention aliens are real but human abduction isn't. Now I don't put much stock in most things as the gospel truth as disinformation is common place.
Well as for weaknesses without actual testing nothing is for sure, see I come from a world where cyber is my forte and I have learned that testing either on actual products I will encounter or closely mimicking an environment I may have to engage is the only way to be sure that one is not caught. I did offensive cyber btw. So it is my personal opinion that we can guess a lot of things can be bad news to whatever dogman is, but without actual testing it's all theory; Not that this is for sure the only way but it's rather reliable from previous experience.
I'll ask you a crazy question tigers do they run faster up hill or down hill?
Answer: Tigers having longer rear limbs that are more robust than say a lion thus will struggle more downhill something that the average person wouldn't know and requires intimate knowledge of what one is dealing with.
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Post by talionranger on May 13, 2021 15:49:53 GMT
Turkey oddly seems to have quite a few I tend to enjoy history myself everything from politics of the time to battles and to mythology/stories/epics or sagas from different cultures from everywhere pretty much. The Greeks had King Lycaon who was turned into a dogman/werewolf creature but I really look at some pretty ancient and obscure texts not just in relation to the dogman phenomenon but because I love history and randomly I will stumble upon references of dog headed men and similar things, mind you translations can be iffy and it's up to the person translating a text. Well I figure if aliens are coming here then they would be interested in the different animal species including humans running about, that's pretty much what any intelligent beings would do try to learn and further their knowledge. So it is entirely possible I am not sure if you have ever heard of the "Wilson Memo" basically it is a conversation between a general and a high ranking intel person where the general wants info on UFO's and they are told no and all research is handled by companies well they mention aliens are real but human abduction isn't. Now I don't put much stock in most things as the gospel truth as disinformation is common place. Well as for weaknesses without actual testing nothing is for sure, see I come from a world where cyber is my forte and I have learned that testing either on actual products I will encounter or closely mimicking an environment I may have to engage is the only way to be sure that one is not caught. I did offensive cyber btw. So it is my personal opinion that we can guess a lot of things can be bad news to whatever dogman is, but without actual testing it's all theory; Not that this is for sure the only way but it's rather reliable from previous experience. I'll ask you a crazy question tigers do they run faster up hill or down hill? Answer: Tigers having longer rear limbs that are more robust than say a lion thus will struggle more downhill something that the average person wouldn't know and requires intimate knowledge of what one is dealing with. Interesting. i thought turkey was all just desert. had no ide at they have mythologies and creatures sightings. history cool from mythologies to architecture buildings to battles to ancient and first civilizations to giants to dragons to holy relics form the past like the ark of the covenant, holy grail, spear of destiny, Excalibur and etc. yeah they do generally mainly experiments. but they do actually abduct. "wilson memo"? no problems. the cyber world is interesting place. i would assume tigers run faster i think.
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Post by somerandomuser on May 14, 2021 0:07:46 GMT
Interesting. i thought turkey was all just desert. had no ide at they have mythologies and creatures sightings. history cool from mythologies to architecture buildings to battles to ancient and first civilizations to giants to dragons to holy relics form the past like the ark of the covenant, holy grail, spear of destiny, Excalibur and etc. yeah they do generally mainly experiments. but they do actually abduct. "wilson memo"? no problems. the cyber world is interesting place. i would assume tigers run faster i think. imgur.com/gallery/amNQ4kI The Wilson Memo Turkey is not very desert like the Turkic peoples fought the war against the dog headed men, the Turkics were a nomadic peoples who worked with the Sassinid Empire and were fearsome warriors. Imagine the Turkic fighting style as precursor to the mongolian steppe warriors they were considered the Huns before the Huns. Mythology has at some level roots in reality I have come to this realization, not everything but there is a lot of truth people tend to think that ancient peoples were simple and not very educated, to that I say the Greeks knew the circumference of the Earth ~3000 years ago all by going up on a mountain and measuring the curvature of the Earth. Maybe ancient people didn't have computers and planes but they did amazing things with very little.
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Post by talionranger on May 14, 2021 1:47:41 GMT
Interesting. i thought turkey was all just desert. had no ide at they have mythologies and creatures sightings. history cool from mythologies to architecture buildings to battles to ancient and first civilizations to giants to dragons to holy relics form the past like the ark of the covenant, holy grail, spear of destiny, Excalibur and etc. yeah they do generally mainly experiments. but they do actually abduct. "wilson memo"? no problems. the cyber world is interesting place. i would assume tigers run faster i think. imgur.com/gallery/amNQ4kI The Wilson Memo Turkey is not very desert like the Turkic peoples fought the war against the dog headed men, the Turkics were a nomadic peoples who worked with the Sassinid Empire and were fearsome warriors. Imagine the Turkic fighting style as precursor to the mongolian steppe warriors they were considered the Huns before the Huns. Mythology has at some level roots in reality I have come to this realization, not everything but there is a lot of truth people tend to think that ancient peoples were simple and not very educated, to that I say the Greeks knew the circumference of the Earth ~3000 years ago all by going up on a mountain and measuring the curvature of the Earth. Maybe ancient people didn't have computers and planes but they did amazing things with very little. oh. forgotten that memo exist. lol. wonder how the dogman fought? like anubis style of fighting? yeah they may not had technology. but they knew what were they doing at the time. even going against armies and mythology creatures. im starting to really think myself that mythology and the bible are similar and seems they both are part of the actual history we had. not what the gov't told us. there are things in this world other humans will not understand. they would prefer to be arrogant and be in the mind of control. seems the more details of the ancient world and modern world come out. i believe we are stuck in some kind of simualtion, but in a dark age era. the monogolians were a deadly warrior force. many feared them. including china.
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Post by peterandthewolf on May 14, 2021 3:28:50 GMT
There is a movie starring Matt Damon about how the great wall of China was actually built to keep out Monsters not the Mongols m.imdb.com/title/tt2034800/I thought this was an interesting idea and sounded plausable The stories in the bible about David and Goliath and wars between humans and giants are true stories
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Post by somerandomuser on May 14, 2021 7:14:37 GMT
oh. forgotten that memo exist. lol. wonder how the dogman fought? like anubis style of fighting? yeah they may not had technology. but they knew what were they doing at the time. even going against armies and mythology creatures. im starting to really think myself that mythology and the bible are similar and seems they both are part of the actual history we had. not what the gov't told us. there are things in this world other humans will not understand. they would prefer to be arrogant and be in the mind of control. seems the more details of the ancient world and modern world come out. i believe we are stuck in some kind of simualtion, but in a dark age era. the monogolians were a deadly warrior force. many feared them. including china. Yeah too many people one way or the other think they know it all, we simply don't know it all and may not ever know everything. I think that questioning everything even ones own beliefs is important, see cryptids be it bigfoot or anything else people can fall into a bias where they will think they know exactly what's going on be that because of a strong belief in religion or subscribing to a certain researcher or school of thought on cryptids. I like to tell people beliefs are specific to that person or group, remember that blind belief is nothing more than dogma at that point which not everyone may ascribe to or fits into their belief(s). It sort of alienates people when others push beliefs as though fact although there is no repeatable process to attain the same "evidence" as one may push forth as a truth upon other people who may have had different experiences. In the end the people who believe without evidence, actual evidence are no better and don't have any more answers and in fact will end up with less qualified answers in the end. How many times have we seen an idea just being incorrect? The center of the universe is the Earth, wrong all because people decided beliefs and not ruining their belief system was more important than actual understanding much less facts. I like to say that facts don't depend on politics, religion or any world view one may hold and you are pretty spot on we are kind of in a modern dark age a pseudo belief be it political, religious or whatever on one side and on the other facts it has even somewhat dribbled into science where opposing sides on an issue will pay for research to support their claims. I tend to take most things (everything) with a grain of salt doesn't really matter the source but when I see similar stories popping up from different cultures and geographical areas then I take note. The Mongolians and a few other peoples with a more skirmish based warfare concept tended to go very well when it came to open field battles but generally would not engage in up close warfare. This is probably why the Mongolians did great against Kiev, but fared not so well in the Battle of Ain Jalut where ordered retreats and out maneuvering was not exactly possible. The Numidians were renowned cavalry but when Caesar in N.Africa would stop and actually fight even with maybe 300 legionary cavalry the Numidians would run off. Once again making the enemy fight the fight you are best suited for is part of the plan. I think that the Battle of Mohi is a good example of how the Mongolians can both be defeated and use their superior maneuverability to win.
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Post by talionranger on May 15, 2021 19:55:23 GMT
There is a movie starring Matt Damon about how the great wall of China was actually built to keep out Monsters not the Mongols m.imdb.com/title/tt2034800/I thought this was an interesting idea and sounded plausable The stories in the bible about David and Goliath and wars between humans and giants are true stories i seen that one. that was good Movie. he chooses good movies to play.
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Post by talionranger on May 15, 2021 20:03:40 GMT
oh. forgotten that memo exist. lol. wonder how the dogman fought? like anubis style of fighting? yeah they may not had technology. but they knew what were they doing at the time. even going against armies and mythology creatures. im starting to really think myself that mythology and the bible are similar and seems they both are part of the actual history we had. not what the gov't told us. there are things in this world other humans will not understand. they would prefer to be arrogant and be in the mind of control. seems the more details of the ancient world and modern world come out. i believe we are stuck in some kind of simualtion, but in a dark age era. the monogolians were a deadly warrior force. many feared them. including china. Yeah too many people one way or the other think they know it all, we simply don't know it all and may not ever know everything. I think that questioning everything even ones own beliefs is important, see cryptids be it bigfoot or anything else people can fall into a bias where they will think they know exactly what's going on be that because of a strong belief in religion or subscribing to a certain researcher or school of thought on cryptids. I like to tell people beliefs are specific to that person or group, remember that blind belief is nothing more than dogma at that point which not everyone may ascribe to or fits into their belief(s). It sort of alienates people when others push beliefs as though fact although there is no repeatable process to attain the same "evidence" as one may push forth as a truth upon other people who may have had different experiences. In the end the people who believe without evidence, actual evidence are no better and don't have any more answers and in fact will end up with less qualified answers in the end. How many times have we seen an idea just being incorrect? The center of the universe is the Earth, wrong all because people decided beliefs and not ruining their belief system was more important than actual understanding much less facts. I like to say that facts don't depend on politics, religion or any world view one may hold and you are pretty spot on we are kind of in a modern dark age a pseudo belief be it political, religious or whatever on one side and on the other facts it has even somewhat dribbled into science where opposing sides on an issue will pay for research to support their claims. I tend to take most things (everything) with a grain of salt doesn't really matter the source but when I see similar stories popping up from different cultures and geographical areas then I take note. The Mongolians and a few other peoples with a more skirmish based warfare concept tended to go very well when it came to open field battles but generally would not engage in up close warfare. This is probably why the Mongolians did great against Kiev, but fared not so well in the Battle of Ain Jalut where ordered retreats and out maneuvering was not exactly possible. The Numidians were renowned cavalry but when Caesar in N.Africa would stop and actually fight even with maybe 300 legionary cavalry the Numidians would run off. Once again making the enemy fight the fight you are best suited for is part of the plan. I think that the Battle of Mohi is a good example of how the Mongolians can both be defeated and use their superior maneuverability to win. indeed. i use to think like that yrs ago. but once more details came in. i was shocked. so im relearning once again on what else can be found of these creatures? so it seems we may know only 1 to 5% details depending how much is shown. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5a3u21VJb4&t=536scame across this video. someone mention in the comments of words? so that one officer mark shackelman. apparently he went to a graveyard saw a werewolve the first time and then he went back the second time. it stood up. then muttered some words? so it can speak? yes we are somekind in a modern dark age for sure. it fits the pieces. those belief systems has clouded there judgement. now they are trying to deny everything as usual. now were coming in a full circle. same. i take stories a grain of salt. but once i have enough details as they come. i connect them like a puzzle. indeed. Mongolians were the best at strategies. make the enemy fight on your terms and you win. you need the best strategies to overcome the conflict. once you overcome. you be in the best position compared to your foes.
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