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Post by virtusblack on Jun 16, 2019 15:49:04 GMT
Beautiful country... My jeep and 7wsm would be quite happy there
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 16, 2019 18:45:16 GMT
I find a lot of credence to the theory that The Ranch rests at the intersection of very large iron enriched limestone plates, and such may facilitate bridges in space-time if the plates are sufficiently charged. I have nothing to back this up with, but if you look at the area on Google Earth you will see it's the largest example of such features on the continent. I find it curious, at least. The reports of dilated time, combined with the myriad of different reports from the area makes me think it is a gateway— or a location of least resistance to arrive, I should say.
This first occurred to me when I read the story of the sabotaged security camera, how the tape they used for the wires looked UV damaged and old. Additionally, the tale of groceries being put away only to have the person turn around and all the groceries are back in the grocery bags again sounds like the same method at work. Like I said, I have nothing to back this up with at all, but it might explain a great deal.
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Post by trolljegeren on Jun 17, 2019 15:31:43 GMT
That's an interesting idea jackstagger. Which visible features are you referring to from the satellite imagery? Could you do a screen shot? I'm no geologist and have not looked too deeply into the geology of the area but according to the mineralogical surveys, the iron deposits in Uintah County are N of the ranch. That doesn't mean there couldn't be iron enriched limestone along the ridge below Bottle Hollow, maybe it's just not a form that's attractive to mining outfits? ugspub.nr.utah.gov/publications/bulletins/B-88.pdfPg 78 for Uintah County map
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 17, 2019 16:20:32 GMT
The iron in that limestone isn't especially concentrated, it just seems to be prevalent even without significant iron deposit concentrations here and there. From what I understand about limestone's formative nature this is not unusual itself. I'm no geologist either, though. It's mostly a musing of my own, I probably shouldn't imply that they are even tectonic features or not— or how such would really matter. I think it's interesting is all.
The idea to look for such a thing came from the account of circles missing in the ground in various random spots around the ranch. It reminded me of techniques for tuning a plate waveguide or balancing a rotating assembly. For instance, you can dimple, shine, layer, drill, and tarnish the surface of a drum cymbal, all of this obviously changes the tone and pitch. You can also drill a small hole in each end of a running cymbal crack to keep it from spreading, it's predicated on the same method at work. A lawnmower blade needs balancing, to do this you remove material from one end of the blade until they are equally proportioned in mass, and it ends up looking very random. If I were tuning a randomly sized waveguide plate I imagine it would look at great deal like the random circles they found. I doubt that is the explanation in reality, but it's another interesting notion that goes in suit with the theory that it's a geological phenomena used as a gateway area where "no digging" is a big rule.
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Post by trolljegeren on Jun 17, 2019 17:47:37 GMT
Ok, I see what you are getting at. It sure would have helped if the owner before Sherman had clarified his reason for the no digging request. I know I would have asked if I were buying. The whole area S of the ranch, on the plateaus of the Roan and Book Cliffs (the latter being the longest continuous escarpment in the world apparently)is just peppered with gas and oil wells and a projected 7800 more are planned. I suppose the 480 acres of the ranch could be the totality of the gateway area that is not to be thrown out of "tune" via digging but I wonder if the removal of soil would tweak it much without getting into blasting bedrock??
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 17, 2019 18:51:34 GMT
Hard to say personally if mining and extraction would really make a difference on the larger sections, but I suppose logic implies it would. That information of gas wells brings to mind another phenomenon actually. If the area is pocketed with gas deposits, namely methane I believe, then it may even be explained by a natural method which also attempts to explain simple crop circle formations. In a very simplified nutshell, because I don't fully understand at all myself, the pockets of gas create a sort of magnetic Saint Elmo's fire that draws materials closer together and toward the earth on the surface. Like how ferrite shavings can indicate the direction of a magnetic field for example. Sometimes orbs are seen floating a few feet off the ground and moving around somewhat mechanically, again not sure why but perhaps some sort of small ionized cloud getting spun around in a freakish magnetic or electrical field between the ground and low atmosphere. It creates a great deal of fog, or requires it to manifest. I'm hardly more than guessing from memory to relay the theory, but it does offer a compelling explanation for (simple circle) crop circles and orbs. I'll try to dig up where I heard about it, if I recall the original proponent of the theory was able to properly predict the time needed for a circle or design based on a few simple algebraic factors. It still fails to explain why the holes looked literally dug up and not crushed into itself, and the more complex/intelligent crop circles, but perhaps if we knew more things would tie together. Perhaps not. Edit: Here's the link to the basic information I was talking about, if you Ctrl + F and search for "Jim Lyons" you'll be able to piece more of it together. It's all a bit metaphorically indulgent and unorganized so searching helps, but the words of Jim Lyons, supposedly "chief engineer at the British Aerospace when they were developing the Harrier Jump Jet" are interesting. forty-five.com/papers/144
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Post by trolljegeren on Jun 18, 2019 3:27:02 GMT
There's a lot of interesting information in that article. I can't say I grasp the idea of vortex filaments to any degree but it's fascinating to learn some of the possible science underlying crop circle formation. It's hard to imagine that circle representing Pi to the 9th degree just being caused by nanosecond doses of massively high voltage acting on aquifers but I guess that's Nature expressing its patterns. The other thought that comes to mind--if it's solely a natural phenomena, why hasn't anyone seen one forming? Maybe someone has?? Just reinforces how little we homo notso sapiens know about our world.
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 18, 2019 22:45:52 GMT
Aquifers, that's right. Not Methane, that's a (largely failed) theory to explain the Bermuda Triangle victims by saying underground methane pockets are bubbling up through the ocean. The theory is basically that the gas bubbles lower the density of the water and thus a ship sinks, but under experimentation it was found that methane released in amounts large enough to cause such an effect do not actually cause such an effect.
As far as someone seeing a crop circle forming, there have been claims and some amateur videos. From what I recall, a green orb was taped floating over the field and drawing a crop circle "glyph" underneath it. There was a lot of fog in the video as well, though I can hardly remember much else since so long ago I had watched it. As far as the geometrically ornate designs of some crop circles, that could be explained by natural forces predicated on the geometry of the Earth and our local cosmos acting on the ionosphere or other electromagnetic aspects of our Earth's sphere. If you rotate or mirror a random design around a single point it becomes symmetrical and intricate naturally, though the initial input was arbitrary. Imagine snowflakes, for example, it's the same principle of easily compounded complexity leading to immense entropy.
Kinda getting further OT, but there are crop circles which in my mind are not able to be debunked or explained so simply. Perhaps an intelligence is using a natural mechanism of our planet to demonstrate their abilities in a way intuitive to our Earth. I do not know, but it would be logical if they were to be a bit coy in that regard. I have a hard time believing that the Earth naturally makes asymmetrical glyphs relative to Pi, the harmonic scale, binary code, human nature, or Earth organisms. Such things scream "monkey see, monkey do" orchestration, to me at least. At that point, I suppose the real question would be who is making those glyphs and not exactly how they do so. One guess I have is that it is a way to calibrate a craft's systems in one way or another, and the actors are a bit indulgent artistically. Either for most efficient travel or navigation in the same suit that NASA and other agencies use large glyphs on the ground to calibrate and orient themselves in orbit. Based on such, and what we know to be true of ourselves, it's not out of the question to imagine that it may even be our species covering up a necessary function of a black project craft.
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Post by Con on Jun 24, 2019 12:36:07 GMT
That Methane case reminds me of a supposed case in the Dragon's Triangle I think where a bunch of ships went missing. Japan denied rumours of the place being cursed and eventually sent out a science vessel to survey the area which, ironically, sank and unfortunately was lost with all hands. The prevailing theory on that is underwater volcanoes either spewing out methane or another chemical that, as you mentioned, weakens the water, although if that's not the case like you say then that in itself could be a quick and dirty explanation for something else.
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Post by ISK8pdFrmaLab on Jun 24, 2019 19:38:12 GMT
A repeated warning given by both current researchers and the owner of the ranch is that those coming into the property are in danger of "bringing something back" once their work is done, and they return home.
This is one of the most overlooked and astute elements of this entire phenomenon.
Nobody is talking about this. Why?
In this regard, the entities at the ranch seem to behave like a plague. People exposed to it become hosts, and something attaches to them that they bring back home, and must deal with.
This sounds a lot like a curse to me.
Technology? I doubt it, but have honestly no idea what is behind this. But it plays viscious games with humans, kills animals in strange ways, and you already know what else. Sounds like evil fey.
Key point is, they follow and harass people who go there, whatever they are.
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Post by trolljegeren on Jun 24, 2019 19:42:03 GMT
Yes, that would be the question! That's an interesting idea about artistic license and calibration too. And underlying it all is always the possibility that it is a black project.
I hadn't heard the methane bubble/sinking ship theory...
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 25, 2019 1:42:34 GMT
Looking into how the methane theory was disproved actually has me eating some of my words. That's the problem with science, humans still write the hypotheses. It has not been disproven outside of "These tiny bubbles will drag water with them as they zoom upwards, and that water has momentum, so it whooshes up above the surface and could technically tip whatever's floating on the surface" being proven as a largely false assumption. That is to say, it probably won't capsize a well-designed ship that way. What it does not lead to conclude is that a ship might drown when floating on methane and seawater "foam". I understand that methane is lighter than air and would have upward momentum even at the surface, but that's the operative problem and not the solution from what I can tell. No seacraft that I know of outside of maybe a hovercraft could float on methane foam. So it won't capsize a boat, probably, but I'd put money down that it could swallow one. Anyone who's ever blown bubbles in their milkshake and had the cherry fall to the bottom because of the relationships between surface tension and density can demonstrate the same method at work.
Whatever is at the ranch has had an enormous aversion to explaining itself. What I find curious is how there aren't any accounts of manifestations on the ranch being at odds with each other, I haven't heard of a single event that could be clearly construed as a conflict or interaction between two different phenomena. Seems like a big club and we're not in it. I don't recall anything vicious about the ranch at all, most of it was just quirky and odd. There was the tale of some hippie guy meditating in a field and he was charged by a hardly visible figure of some sort, he got the midnight mass scared right out of him. Ethically and morally I don't see anything terrible was done in contrast to the same human behaviour on the ranch. It's a cattle ranch, we kill and eat the cows that are being mutilated, we chase off predators, we patrol the territory and so on. If there is another claim which is overtly predatory or even slightly so I would be interested in hearing it. I don't say that to be argumentative in the slightest, I genuinely like hearing all the Ranch stories. I still don't look down on anyone for giving the area great caution.
If you think about it, if you had just come to Earth and see humanity would you classify it as an advanced civilization given the rampant avarice and desperation displayed by individuals and groups? Desperation is never a characteristic of wisdom. This is an old question now, but still relevant. On the other side of things there's no rule or guideline which says a species has to be advanced to traverse dimensions or great distances of space. An organism with the natural ability to do so, maybe with some sort of organic mechanism in its own body or making use of another organism from their world which could facilitate the same effect, they wouldn't have to be much more intellectually inclined than a snail. It's certainly one heck of an evolutionary advantage, and I bet evolution finds many of those given enough time and enough attempts. The other thing I think about is that where ever humans go they leave their trash, what we are seeing is essentially future trash in a philosophical and perhaps literal sense.
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