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Post by arcanelife on Nov 29, 2018 17:40:55 GMT
Hi all...
I'm not very well at the moment and having a tough time so you'll have to forgive my unenergetic response and explanation but something needs to be dealt with on this thread. I've pointed this out in other threads too but it doesn't seem to have been noticed so I'll reiterate.
Werewolves are NOT 'made' by bites or scratches according to academic and archeological knowledge surrounding belief in the creatures. As I've said before...it is crucial one separates the 'Hollywood' myth from the historical record.
Werewolves were ALWAYS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION brought into being through ritualistic practices...and always and without exception these practices were disturbing and unpleasant.
Without going into things any deeper this also provides something of an answer regarding the genetics issue. In a nutshell... we ALL have the potential genetically to 'become a werewolf' according to ancient practice and belief. Period.
I'd encourage you all to know I'm certain what I have said above represents the truth regarding the issue from a cultural/historical point of view. There is plenty of detailed literature out there for those interested.
Hope everyone is doing ok
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Post by Con on Nov 29, 2018 21:09:14 GMT
Hi Arcane, hopefully you'll be feeling better soon.
It's interesting to point out the ritualistic thing. I wouldn't mind some links to information, either from you or someone else on that kind of subject, I'd be interested in reading up on it.
Still not sure what to believe until I meet one of these things in person. Once I do that, and assuming I'm not overcome with absolute, paralysing fear, I'll hopefully be able to suss them out.
I don't know if it's rituals, bites, genes or even a combination of all three on some level, but for me, as I've said, they're either werewolves or wolf people so I'm in agreement with you.
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Post by arcanelife on Nov 29, 2018 21:59:27 GMT
If there is anything to all this ancient stuff, and if somehow there's some insane truth behind it all, I don't think you'll find the exact criteria online tbh.
Suppose you can never be too cautious though. This is one of those things where 000.1% of a chance is too high right?!!?
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Post by Con on Nov 29, 2018 23:13:50 GMT
Thanks ag47! I agree Arcane, it's definitely not good. They probably wouldn't have actual ancient rites online, I agree. You'd probably have to go to a practising Pagan or a Wiccan for proper rites I'd imagine, they've most likely got all the official books on it.
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Post by jeritadamson on Nov 30, 2018 8:03:25 GMT
Hi all... I'm not very well at the moment and having a tough time so you'll have to forgive my unenergetic response and explanation but something needs to be dealt with on this thread. I've pointed this out in other threads too but it doesn't seem to have been noticed so I'll reiterate. Werewolves are NOT 'made' by bites or scratches according to academic and archeological knowledge surrounding belief in the creatures. As I've said before...it is crucial one separates the 'Hollywood' myth from the historical record. Werewolves were ALWAYS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION brought into being through ritualistic practices...and always and without exception these practices were disturbing and unpleasant. Without going into things any deeper this also provides something of an answer regarding the genetics issue. In a nutshell... we ALL have the potential genetically to 'become a werewolf' according to ancient practice and belief. Period. I'd encourage you all to know I'm certain what I have said above represents the truth regarding the issue from a cultural/historical point of view. There is plenty of detailed literature out there for those interested. Hope everyone is doing ok This thread is getting really interesting! Thanks, everybody, for contributing—especially the comment quoted above, arcanelife: The idea you presented was essentially new to me, yet it fits well with a lot of the reports of encounters with dogmen, especially the following features of them: •their coming in various types, eg with canine vs hominid legs •their humanlike intelligence, eg knowing what a gun is •their eating dogs, and cats for that matter •their interest in us, eg watching us through our windows as well as any other features or behaviors I cannot think of now. When you’re feeling better, I suspect I speak for more than myself when I urge you to start a thread to discuss this angle on the origins of dogmen. I love ideas that capture my imagination! Dogmen just got creepier. Anyone listen to Dogman Encounters Radio Episode [190], with guest Brandon?
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Post by Con on Nov 30, 2018 17:00:15 GMT
I've just thought of something, but it could absolute rubbish. I've heard of a few cases of missing people in relation to dogmen, however I can't say for sure if it's a real thing or a made up story since it's one of these "cover ups" that may or may not have happened.
So here's the abridged version of the story. A couple drove out to a swamp and went missing. Short investigation, they found the couple's convertible had been ripped open at the roof, no bodies and no blood, but scratch marks everywhere. By the looks of it, they had been snatched out of the roof but without drawing any blood, leading me to believe they were kidnapped rather than killed (a'la the LBL murders). Many months later, some kids found a camera that looked as though it had been tossed into some reeds. They took it home, booted up the SD card into their PC and found images that the couple had taken. Most were normal except for the last two which were pictures of dogmen, one of them very blurry. They alerted the police, some guy came by claiming to be the police, asked to use the kids PC, inserted a thumb drive and did something for ten minutes then left. Kid loaded up Facebook and then his PC fried itself.
Now, I'm wondering since we're talking about rituals and cults if maybe some of these dissapearances are actually kidnappings rather than murders. I don't imagine many people are up for turning into werewolves, and if they come across a couple who have seen too much, makes sense that they'd kidnap and turn them. Better for them to disappear without a trace rather than murder them and have someone find the body I guess, because if werewolves are real, I've no doubt that werewolf hunters are real too.
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Post by jeritadamson on Dec 1, 2018 0:40:14 GMT
That is a good story, con! If true, the plot thickens, though in the episode I mentioned, the guest tells of an unifentified group of men in tactical gear going onto his property, after he told the local chief of police about his 8-9’ dogman encounter, and the men kept him in the dark as to what they were doing on his land: So we have that credible witness to active coverup protocols, too.
I definitely encourage readers of this thread to listen to episode 190 of the radio program for this thread: When the guest describes his feelings at seeing the dogman smile at him, precisely at the moment when he thinks he and his friend will die, harrowing insights can be gleaned as to the psychology of these creatures. I dare say, I think we are onto something with Arcane’s post.
Bravo, everyone!
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Post by Con on Dec 1, 2018 1:05:07 GMT
Brandon's encounter was the first dogman episode I ever watched, really blew me away at the time. Saying that, after watching the follow up episodes, I have to say that I'm honestly doubting Brandon's experiences. Not that that I'm saying they're out and out fakes, it just starts to read like some kind of supernatural novel, especially when he encounters the dogman in the barn and it gives him that weird, psychic-like look that makes him not pull the trigger when he had the gun trained on it. Plus the fact that he said he had cameras all around his home but didn't pick up the ones that were circling the house in the second story. He's got a good voice for storytelling if nothing else.
However, even though I've said that I've doubted him, I think it just falls down to how incredible the story really is. If what he encountered truly did happen, then if these dogmen really are werewolves or wolf people, then they're practically on our level intelligence wise, and probably have access to abilities that we could only dream of. Makes the whole "Werewolf cult" idea I've had seem more likely.
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Post by arcanelife on Dec 1, 2018 18:51:19 GMT
Makes the whole "Werewolf cult" idea I've had seem more likely. Well... um... it's kind of an open secret in some respects. For example; have you ever bought anyone a Valentine's Day card?
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Post by arcanelife on Dec 1, 2018 18:58:55 GMT
Valentine's Day?!
What are you waffling on about now Arcane?
Who knows? Perhaps I think the fun is in people educating themselves. The journey of discovery is personal. Plus these days we have this wonderful internet.
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Post by Con on Dec 1, 2018 21:26:53 GMT
Hmm, I'm not really sure what you mean by "open secret" Arcane. Are you saying there's actual cults out there?
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Post by Con on Dec 1, 2018 23:58:36 GMT
Oh wow, thanks ag47! I had no idea that Feburary 14 - 17 were related to wolves and werewolves. What's freaky is that my first name relates to wolves and that my birthday is on 15th of February, plus since I was a little boy I've been obsessed with wolves and werewolves. I guess sometimes things just line up!
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Post by Wolfhound on Dec 2, 2018 3:18:23 GMT
Interesting. When I was young, werewolves were my favorite movie monsters. Now I'm interested in the Dogman phenomenon and my birthday is also February 15th.
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Post by Con on Dec 2, 2018 10:22:22 GMT
Oh my goodness! This is really weird! Wouldn't it be funny if we all turned out to be werewolves? The werewolf werewolf hunters
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Post by arcanelife on Dec 2, 2018 12:21:09 GMT
Looking at things another way:
Perhaps the question isn't really so much DO werewolves exist as...
Is there a desire to make some people BELIEVE they do.
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