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Post by sandcat on Aug 13, 2017 22:40:39 GMT
I have heard lots of encounters from Dogman radio with Vic Cundiffe about when there are Dogmen sightings they are seen swaying and moving in unusual and jerky movements. Any ideas as to the purpose of them moving in this way. Just something that stood out to me as lots of people report this strange phenomenon.
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Post by ag47 on Aug 14, 2017 12:03:52 GMT
Astute observation, sandcat.
I wonder if it's because their bodies might be some sort of constructs, and not natural flesh and blood? I'm not saying that is what I believe, but a lot of what I hear makes me think there is something more to these things (and other cryptids) than just another species. Maybe they are just poking in here from 'someplace else.' Scary thought.
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Post by bryanb on Aug 14, 2017 14:24:04 GMT
The other odd bit of information to consider is that reports have stated that their movements are swift and almost graceful. This gives us conflicting information, graceful versus in some reports, almost violently shaking and/ or thrashing.
Brings me back to skinwalker stories I've heard. I'm not much of a believer in the paranormal and that a rapid physical transformation from one creature to another is possible. Though on the other hand, what of a gradual alteration of our genome? Heck, we're now capable of just this to a certain degree and viruses have been doing so for a very long time.
I've listened to stories on Vics show and elsewhere describing dogmen thrashing around while standing and even flailing on the ground. I would think a slow change in ones dna would be a painful, long grueling experience.
Just some food for thought there.
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Post by ag47 on Aug 14, 2017 18:28:42 GMT
Interesting thoughts. We just don't know. Some of the conflicting information could be people's observational skills, or just different behaviours observed. It could also be that not all sightings are of the same thing. I've never seen anything I could definitely say was 'paranormal.' So, I'm a heavy skeptic of most accounts, but I have a more open mind than I used to. There are some pretty credible accounts of stuff that is pretty fantastic. I agree with Butch Witkowski on one thing: it's starting to look to me like a whole lot of this stuff (UfO's, cryptids, paranormal events, etc.) is related. In our 3 dimensional sensory universe, I think we only see a small portion of what is there. www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WjV6MmCyMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=rAAeLNAfSYc |
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Post by sandcat on Aug 17, 2017 6:38:10 GMT
Thanks for the replies . I have also heard the varying observations of these creatures and it seems people have very different experiences to each other. Absolutely fascinating. This world is an amazing place filled with wonder. I wonder if we will ever know what a dogman really is......i hope so!
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Post by ag47 on Aug 17, 2017 9:36:44 GMT
I wonder too if we will know. I think Vic Cundiff of dogman encounters radio has categorized dogman into something like seven types. Cloaked hedgehog has three videos she made discussing the possible nature of dogman. They are pt. 1,2,and 3 and are on her YT channel. I put the links on here in a post. I'm on a tablet right now and I hate tapping out text on these. youtu.be/jmPeAdbEw-8. Pt1 youtu.be/OuCyojm-KHk Pt2 youtu.be/RcDV2-GhgHI Pt3 Added the Cloakedhedgehog dogman crash course links. |
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Post by sandcat on Aug 17, 2017 10:00:52 GMT
Ill look her up . Thanks
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Post by prairiewildman on Aug 20, 2017 5:13:24 GMT
Swaying from side to side is also mentioned in many Sasquatch sighting reports. No one is sure why they do it, but my thoughts are that they do it when they are indecisive about what they are going to do, when the situation has options. Chimpanzees do this when they are unsure of a situation, before they make up their mind as to what they are going to do. Perhaps this mentioned swaying from Dogmen are also part of their decision making process.
One common report that shows this took place in British Columbia in 1974. Four witness were standing in the middle of a field when a 7.5 foot tall black haired Sasquatch came out of the woods. The creature stopped & watched the witnesses for about 30 seconds, then it began to sway from foot to foot. It did this for 45 seconds to a minute, then it suddenly turned and retreated into the woods and continued on until the witnesses could no longer hear it breaking through the woods. It seems like the creature swayed back and forth while it was trying to decide whether it should continue on across the field in full view of the witnesses or whether it should retreat back the way it came.
Once again, there is no absolute proof that this is the reason. Its one of my hypotheses for it, based on reports & the proven actions of another primate species.
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Post by ag47 on Aug 21, 2017 11:40:28 GMT
Prairiewildman, your hypotheses are intelligent and welcome.
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Post by 1Sk8pdFrmALab on Dec 5, 2020 10:36:08 GMT
I wondered about this also.
Truth? I have no idea, and won’t pretend to. But keeping in mind the limitations of our human reality (sensing only a very small slice of the existing energy spectrum), imagine a life form suddenly popping into our world, and having to adjust to our ... zoo, our prison, our ... circus. Gravity, smells, pollution, visible light spectra, not to mention electronic global static and the chatter we generate but cannot hear.
The other side of things would be a life form, or semblance of life that we simply cannot comprehend. A construct, or energy entity, Tulpa, spirit suit, or some arcane conjuration beyond the boundaries of what we know as ‘natural’ would and could, do as it or its handlers, pleased.
If there IS such a thing as ‘pleased’ for these things.
Speculating on the abstract here, maybe the swaying is just how they express boredom. Or impatiently wanting to be dismissed back into their plane of existence. Or discomfort at any number of the laws existing here, like coronal mass ejections, electromagnetic radiation, high CO2 or different physics we take for granted.
Who can say?
Interesting question though.
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Post by ag47 on Dec 5, 2020 13:54:15 GMT
I agree with this line of thought. My feelings are that dogman, bigfoot, and others may not be just another flesh & blood species, but something more, perhaps interdimensional or occupying more dimensions that we do. I love Carl Sagan's explanation of a tesseract and what our world might look like to a being who occupies more dimensions than we do, or can sense. www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WjV6MmCyM |
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Post by keninga on Dec 17, 2020 21:24:29 GMT
I respect you hold the opinion of these being supernatural creatures, I don't happen to share that belief, however, I will say there are some supernatural things I have experience while out hiking and Bigfoot hunting.
They do seem to overlap and they might explain a number of reasons for people disappearing like they have in Parks and National Forest and Wildlife Management Areas. I can tell you I have been, seen and experienced some strange stuff in my time. Was it Supernatural? I'm pretty sure it was, but you might have experienced it came to a different conclusion. We can all see the same thing and come to a different set of conclusion based on seeing the very same thing. Which is why now we know that memory in people isn't the greatest thing in the world to depend on. For instance, a police friend of mine will ask witnesses what they saw and they will give him great details and what sounds like they will make a great witness, then they will suddenly toss in the killer statement, "I'm almost ninety-five percent sure that's what happened." Then he has to move on because ninety-five percent sure ain't plumb sure. In my case I'm not afraid to say I believe I have experienced supernatural events, and yes, I'm plumb sure I have. Can I prove it? Nope, all I have is my story and let's be honest it's anecdotal at best, I know it, but that doesn't change what I saw as far as I'm concerned.
Granted, I'm not a fragile flower and I come undone in clutch situations and I try to relate things as best I can, and I actually do some things some might think me "teched" as we use to call it. However, I gift the Little People and I am careful to use proper manners when I think they might be around. I make up gifting bundles and carry them in a special gifting pouch on my gear. I also keep about four mini-bottles of cheap rye whiskey, and some extra tobacco. I'll put some hard candies, individually wrapped from Walmart, a good pinch of chewing tobacco, "Redman" brand usually. My Great Grandmother taught me about the Little People, how to respect them, how to understand them, they don't quite understand humans and sometimes they do the wrong things, not meaning any harm. She told me that they loved hard candies and if that was all I ever gave them, that would be enough. However, they adore tobacco and whiskey. I recall her words, "Tobacco will get you permission when nothing else will, but Whiskey will get you help, should you need it." Now, if you violate some thing they hold in high regard like stop and pee or poop in what they consider their territory then they can and often will put a suggestion inside your head and you will just walk, not eating, not drinking, just walk, no sleeping, no resting, literally until you fall down from complete exhaustion.
Missing people have been found starved, dehydrated and collapsed on the ground carrying food and water on their person. A few times they have been found still walking and would not respond to calls or shouts from searchers. They had to physically chase them down and grab them and then for a second they acted like they were gonna fight to keep going. But they start to come out of whatever spell they were under. They usually can't say what happened to them they were doing this or that and suddenly this man, the rescuer, grabbed them. They recover but it takes a bit for them to recover.
The Choctaw people actually have a word for it and bless me if I have a clue how to write it down and I'm pretty sure I don't pronounce it right anyway, but in Choctaw it means, "The long dead walk". They said it was put on people who violated the spirits, they have their own names for the Little People and they come in a number of types like Bigfoots and Dogmen. I've found in my many years of hiking and hunting these creatures they overlap each other, the Bigfoots know of the Little People and the Dogmen and they all share that knowledge and have worked out there own treaties, if you will, with each other over the centuries.
I've probably not put this in the correct area. sorry for that. Put it where it needs to be if you'd like.
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Post by ag47 on Dec 17, 2020 22:11:01 GMT
Very interesting. Thank you.
I've read and heard various encounters that make me entertain the idea. I think we live in a very big, and strange universe of which we only sense and understand a very small slice. Just my feeling. No proof.
Years ago (a lot of years) I used to laugh at people who said they encountered things that aren't supposed to exist.
I have greatly changed my attitude toward what is out there that we don't know about. If I had it to do over, I would definitely have listened more and not laughed.
The missing people cases really do intrigue me, and there is a lot of credible information on the truly weird circumstances surrounding them.
I've never had an encounter that I definitely could say was paranormal. I've had a few things happen to me that were weird enough to make me stop, and I felt something remarkable had just happened, most of which went right over my head as I wasn't paying sufficient attention when it happened, or I couldn't see the exact spot where the action occurre, etc..
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Post by keninga on Dec 17, 2020 22:32:59 GMT
I wasn't always a believer in such things, as I said earlier, my Great Grandmother taught me about the Little People and other creatures of the forest. She use to have a garden that was huge and every fall when you harvested the corn you made corn dolls to set out in your garden and fields as part of the coming season prep. It's was as important as any tool, like a hoe or a shovel.
Naturally, as I got older I didn't believe so much but I seen some sh!t, seriously and all that stuff my Grandmama told me started making sense and connecting. Like I said earlier, I have never seen a Bigfoot and I've looked all over the southeast for them, I go deer hunting down in NC and I have a scary encounter with a bloody Dogmen, and take my word for it when you actually lay eyes on something like that it will make wonder where it might possibly have ever come from other than the depths of hell itself.
Bigfoots I truly think are natural creatures who are just so in touch with their environment they can simply blend right in and look to disappear. I upset a lady once when she claimed that she saw a bigfoot disappear at the end of her driveway into a portal and I suggested that maybe he was further back and just vanished into the woods, Holy Crap. Never piss off a redneck woman when she's telling you she seen Bigfoot beam into another dimension via the driveway portal.
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Post by somerandomuser on Dec 21, 2020 13:03:43 GMT
prairiewildman this is what I thought as well part of the decision making process or perhaps stress sort of like how some predators will literally pound and stomp (claw, swipe and using front paws bouncing off) the ground when they are extremely agitated or scared. I have seen this done by both bears and lions when they were basically cornered and or stressed. Another thought depth perception, snakes (cobras) sway and from what I have read it's not just all following whatever is in front such as say the snake charming chaps but to better gauge depth as well for a strike. Now something to denote very rarely are these guys cornered with no escape, so something else that crosses my mind disease be it natural or genetic. As an example I remember that during dry summers in Africa anthrax breakouts occur where in it goes up and down the food chain of course impacting lions but they also will sway and have seizures once again it is just a thought being that reports are varying. Genetic issues could be disorientation perhaps physiologically the standing means that the muscles are always adjusting to keep an upright posture.
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