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Post by ISK8pdFrmaLab on Jun 27, 2019 7:56:51 GMT
youtu.be/8i1WViTBTmAGreat new collection from the field, of some audio that definitely calls for analysis. The first track could be canid, loud and angry, perhaps injured or dying. The track that sounds like RF energy really got my geek hackles up, and I called a few old school ex signals Intel spook friends to have a listen, and they never heard anything like it in over 60 years EACH in comm deception careers. The remaining tracks are just, well... Scary. Especially the one female in distress, since dogmen are known to emulate children and women in order to lure people into the woods in an attempt at rendering aid or rescue. This suggests the creatures intellect is sufficient to cunningly manipulate human behavior to set ambushes, by playing on male protection instinct and luring men into ambush sites. By use of mimicry. What are we dealing with here? Something that is NOT our friend.
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Post by Con on Jun 27, 2019 17:40:55 GMT
Thanks for posting this, I'll give it a listen later on!
I've heard of other creatures that mimic. Some people swear that Sasquatch mimics children and women, and then I've heard of the Wendigo/Rake creature doing this a lot too, and from what I can gather, the Wendigo is very much something to be feared, so much that even the dogmen hate them with a passion. Josh Turner mentioned a case involving one, where this thing's joints could bend backwards and it has translucent skin and a horrific mouth filled with teeth, and they seem to be expert tree climbers.
If the Wendigo creature is a real thing, then I look at it like this; loads of people have come back with stories of encountering dogmen, bigfoot, even a few with the Gugwe if that's real. I haven't heard of many people recalling events with the Wendigo, and from those that I have heard, the Wendigo is one creature where shoot first, ask questions later is something I would totally agree with.
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 27, 2019 22:17:25 GMT
I watched this yesterday actually. I think all except the wind noise (wind) and the Sierra Camp recordings are Deer/Elk and a cat of some sort. Bobcats sound like crying children, pumas sound exactly like screaming women, and screech owls (and owls in general) sound exactly like screaming children. Foxes can sound a lot like all of them except deer. The first one was definitely a deer or elk with echo, maybe a buffalo but not a cow, maybe a moose. The second and third ones are likely wind, like how woodwind instruments function. The fourth is definitely a bobcat, not a child, no doubt in my mind. The fifth one is either a hoax or genuine. That's just my opinions, though.
Lots of people think that any vocal tone with an animalistic "break" to it to be primally interesting or threatening. In the Eastern world breaks in pitch are actually a significant part of some languages such as Mandarin, it's another layer of inflexions.
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Post by ISK8pdFrmaLab on Jun 29, 2019 20:28:59 GMT
What is interesting about the electronic or woodwind chimes track is that there are katydids chirping in the woods as well. This is a nocturnal Summer sound, when the woods are still and not windy.
If there was sufficient wind to create those harmonics through structure such as the frame of a radio or lookout tower, then audio would pick the wind sounds up.
There would be wind through the trees, clearly audible. Wind would buffet the leaves and branches, making katydids stop or reduce calls. Wind would also buffet the mic, producing field artifacts that wash out the sources of interest in a series of intermittent puffs or gusts (unless wind filters on the mic are in place).
I don't hear any wind in that track, not enough to whistle through struts at speeds sufficient to create resonance.
Unless of course, it's a hoax.
Easy to mix tracks nowadays.
It would be simple to record wind resonating through a bridge or tower, and blend it with a lazy summer night in the woods.
Anyone here from the Chicago area? The windy city? I'd bet money that residents there have regularly heard high winds through all kinds of structures, and could probably identify a sound like this.
Food for thought.
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Post by jackstagger on Jun 30, 2019 0:18:53 GMT
You make a good point about wind noise and microphone pickup. I'd be willing to be the actual wind making the noise is far off, and the sound is more easily carried in the general direction of the resulting prevailing wind. This would make it much more audible but also more directional. The sounds seem omnidirectional, which might mean the mechanism that is causing the whistling is either as large in relation to the reflecting surfaces the acoustic waves are encountering (likely imo) or a nearly standing wave is being created very locally from longitudinal pressure waves. Both could be true even, lighthouses are known to sing in heavy wind this way, it's just howling wind really. Very odd manifestation of it in the video of course, and perhaps I am wrong.
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Brandon
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Post by Brandon on Jun 30, 2019 22:20:26 GMT
I've posted that first one here before. That's one of two audios I'VE heard that actually makes me stop and think.
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Post by Josh on Jul 7, 2019 8:54:10 GMT
I tried to watch that YouTube video but I had exit out of it quickly. I could not stand the narrator's voice. Listening to his voice was like nails on a chalkboard to me.
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Post by Con on Jul 9, 2019 22:42:08 GMT
That first one is so odd. People are saying it's moose or elk, yet other people are saying it's definitely not. Could it be something mimicking it?
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Post by DogFlabber on Oct 13, 2019 8:04:46 GMT
That is some really scary audio, there is one that sounds like a woman fighting with someone and screaming for help, help me. If I would have been I would probably have been stupid enough that, I probably would have ran into the woods to see if I could help.
Jack thank you for telling us that pumas can sound like screaming woman and bobcats like crying babies. That is very important to know especially in this very suspicious group we have here, i'm sure that everyone here that goes into the woods are in supper hyper alert mode, and last thing we need to do is get mislead in the wrong direction.
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Post by MikeNaborowski on Nov 1, 2019 19:10:21 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6IW2DoizbE I myself have heard a dogman scream before in person while in the woods with friends, this the closest thing to what me and friends heard that day, which ignited me into conducting research because I once saw one when I was little looking through my window, I was quite certain it was real but my parents reassured it was dream. So I started expeditions with my friends in attempts to draw one out and snap a photo or get prints of one only to get quick unexpected glimpses and get rocks thrown at us.
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 2, 2019 5:01:49 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6IW2DoizbE I myself have heard a dogman scream before in person while in the woods with friends, this the closest thing to what me and friends heard that day, which ignited me into conducting research because I once saw one when I was little looking through my window, I was quite certain it was real but my parents reassured it was dream. So I started expeditions with my friends in attempts to draw one out and snap a photo or get prints of one only to get quick unexpected glimpses and get rocks thrown at us. Mike, That is a pretty scary scream, I have never heard anything like it, and it seemed to echo a lot. It did not sound natural like it came from an animal, sounded like something alien or horror movie stuff. I have a theory like everyone has their little ideas, I think they are telepathic and when they make noises in the woods its not for communicating with each other it is meant for you. haha |
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