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Post by michaelcorvin on Jul 15, 2018 18:06:53 GMT
Is the Dogman Encounters/Dark Water feud a possible reason for Bigfoot Eyewitness YouTube shutdown?  I don't know if many people know about the Vic Cundiff and Dark Waters feud, but goes back to Lon Strickler, there is too much to go over so I will leave a video and screen shots so you can go over it yourself, BUT Dark Waters has made some pretty harsh accusations on Vic's integrity. The most interesting thing from all this is an interview Dark Waters did a while back with the channel 'Dogman Nation' about this situation and the most damning thing is that it actually sounds like Vic Cundiff's voice muffled with a synthesizer. Below I will first include that interview and then after that I will post some other things. Some facebook screenshots (Nakimichi Enovy is Dark Waters):
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Post by phantomlizzy on Jul 16, 2018 16:01:18 GMT
I used to follow Dark Waster real closely. His videos are the ones that really made me a believer and led me to Vic’s channels. But lately, Dark Waters had posted videos targeting other youtubers and comparing their work to his and I was already really annoyed with that before this whole thing blew up with Vic. I think Dark water is really full of himself and has no problem dragging people in the mud to better his own name and work. I Unsubbed him as soon as all of that broke out. Vic helps a lot of people with their emotional trauma to these encounters and Dark waters can shove off if he thinks that Vic is out for just the money. In my opinion, Dark Waters needs to be shut down and removed from the community who truly cares and wants to help others through just a charged and difficult time they come across after having such a terrifying experience as seeing a cryptid.
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Post by ag47 on Jul 16, 2018 19:33:28 GMT
Ugly stuff.
michael - thanks for keeping us informed, and please continue to do so.
It's hard to discern the liars sometimes. In the paranormal, cryptid, ufo, etc., field(s) liars, hoaxers, profiteers, and deliberate disinformation abound, unfortunately.
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Post by michaelcorvin on Jul 16, 2018 19:47:39 GMT
I used to follow Dark Waster real closely. His videos are the ones that really made me a believer and led me to Vic’s channels. But lately, Dark Waters had posted videos targeting other youtubers and comparing their work to his and I was already really annoyed with that before this whole thing blew up with Vic. I think Dark water is really full of himself and has no problem dragging people in the mud to better his own name and work. I Unsubbed him as soon as all of that broke out. Vic helps a lot of people with their emotional trauma to these encounters and Dark waters can shove off if he thinks that Vic is out for just the money. In my opinion, Dark Waters needs to be shut down and removed from the community who truly cares and wants to help others through just a charged and difficult time they come across after having such a terrifying experience as seeing a cryptid. Dark Waters and Vic's feud started over Vic's drama with Lon Strickler, which carried over into Vic enticing the drama with his followers on his private paid subscriber group on facebook. The most shocking thing is the interview, with a new Dogman Channel entitled 'Dogman Nation' had an interview with Dark Waters over the drama and the channel's interviewer sounded EXACTLY like Vic with his voice disguised with a synthesizer and ironically enough, the channel went dead as soon as that interview was posted nearly 2 years ago. If you listen to the interview, Dark Water brings up a lot of valid points. I was also not impressed with Dark Waters over the drama with Vic, til I actually found out that DW can back up some of his arguments with validity. What I am wondering, if the claims made by Dark Waters are actually true, because the reasons YouTube give for the termination of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio are for "Deceptive practises and misleading content", which are claims that Dark Waters has put against Vic on many occasions. SEE BELOW:
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Post by crow71 on Jul 16, 2018 21:59:48 GMT
It's all a bunch of BS, acting like elementary kids, I got no time for it, none of my biz unless my name comes up, which is highly unlikely, I've talked to Vic many times, even asked him about Dark, he didn't say any thing bad about him, just laughed it off, talked to Dark, complete opposite, had nothing but BS about Vic, that made my mind up then & there, I got no respect for a man that talks BS about someone behind their back, ask anyone here where I'm at, they'll tell you if I have a problem with you I tell you to your face, not afraid of no man, Dogman tho, now that's different!!
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Post by michaelcorvin on Jul 30, 2018 20:52:06 GMT
I've heard some more things through the grape vine that Vic Cundiff has become very anti-NADP now as well. I am actually a bit concerned with the entire Vic Cundiff situation.
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Post by phantomlizzy on Jul 31, 2018 20:10:57 GMT
That’s really too bad. I really had a lot of respect for him. Has Joady talked to him recently?
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Post by humboldtcounty on Mar 21, 2019 22:38:58 GMT
michaelcorvin,
You represent an organization which, by means of the name it chose, holds itself up as representing Dogman research on an INTERNATIONAL level, it is rather embarrassing, and disappointing, to see you writing about a fellow investigator, Vic Cundiff, in such a gossipy, emotional, and unprofessional way. Perhaps you are capable of redirecting the energy you put into belittling him toward the project of investigating dogmen.
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Post by ag47 on Mar 22, 2019 9:16:57 GMT
I would truly like this thread to end. It worries me, and I don't see any good to come of it, regardless of who is right or wrong. Can we please?
UPDATE: In lieu of anyone having anything else productive to say, I'm locking this thread.
I think we have to take the high road.
NO DISRESPECT INTENDED TO ANYONE INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION.
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