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Post by virtusblack on Dec 27, 2018 3:42:47 GMT
Well I GUESS technically they can be anywhere... And that kinda makes sense IF its a "paranormoal" thing (which I believe it is). But STILL, this is definitely not a hot spot... However, I did make contact with a NADP investigator here and there are 5 others in the area besides myself, SOOooo.... We're on our way... I wouldn't complain if I saw a bigfoot instead, lol. It's possible they steal people sometimes, lol.
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Post by Con on Dec 27, 2018 23:22:05 GMT
I like to keep an open mind, so I don't think there's anything stopping these guys from being supernatural and physical at the same time, plus if their intelligence is anything to go by, they could very well be right under our noses and we'd never know. I wonder (and don't wonder) what they do with the people they steal? I've heard cases of there being no blood, so who knows? Do they just take them to kidnap them so they can't tell people what they've seen, eat them or what? It's bizarre. Good luck on your future investigations, and stay safe! By the way, for anyone curious, here's a few articles on highland sheep killings that make no sense to me, one of them fairly recent: www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/highlands/1466841/twelve-rare-breed-sheep-killed-in-highland-worrying-incident/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/beast-cat-scottish-highlands-bettyhill-swordly-sheep-stripped-eaten-mystery-a7616711.htmlThat "stripping" of the sheep was an interesting one, it's almost dogman MO if the DER witness encounters are anything to go by. Actually, should I make this a thread in and of itself rather than posting it here?
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Post by virtusblack on Dec 28, 2018 3:03:39 GMT
Interesting articles... Alright, where's our big cat expert!? lol. I dunno man, almost kinda seems like UFO activity too... They didn't go into prints, animal depredation of the carcasses, blood... It looked pretty clean to me. But I've also always thought the cryptid and UFO phenomenon were related. Sigh... I don't think it's fair to say it's wild dogs or coyotes or there wouldn't be a news article about it right? Good find.
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Post by Con on Dec 28, 2018 10:06:50 GMT
The big cat thing has always bothered me. I don't think leopards would like the cold here. The only big cat I know of that would like the cold is the Amur Leopard, which would have a field day in Scotland. Plus, if it was a big cat, they'd have units out searching for them and have the public in on it. If it was a person who had done this, or even someones dogs, there'd be a criminal investigation going on. We don't actually have any predators here in the UK bigger than a fox or a wild cat, so there isn't really anything around that could do that, which is why I'm thinking dogman. Thanks! I've been sitting on these news articles for a while, don't know why I never posted them here sooner.
It's frustrating when there's no follow-up to these stories. If something did this to sheep, then surely it's a potential threat to people, yet there's no (public) police response? Very strange.
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Post by virtusblack on Mar 11, 2019 18:26:38 GMT
Evans creek Washington yo! That's only an hour or two away and in the same patch of woods I like to take the family to. Also caught an episode on Brenton Sawin's channel that had a few dogman encounters in Washington state as well, one in that same patch of woods, and one just a couple miles from where my wife saw a giant jaguar in a tree when she was a kid in Eastern Wa... So I guess they're around... The patch of woods is close to mount rainier and that doesn't surprise me, seems to be a hotspot for cryptids AND ufo's. Art Viars is the lead investigator here and we're just waiting for forest road 52 to open so we can go try and tempt fate. We got thermal, fox pro caller, magazine fed, gas operated semi automatic .308's and overwhelming, overpowering desires to see this thing for ourselves... With any luck, everything will go wrong and we'll live to tell the tale ; )
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Post by jeritadamson on Apr 6, 2019 22:04:37 GMT
Episode 247 contains relation of Vrill-like creatures, one killed by a DM and brought to--and tossed down to the ground before--some humans as if to say, "This, not us dogmen, is what has been killing your cattle," another in a tree with translucent skin and organs visible inside its body which reversed the direction of its knees and elbows and sprang down and ran off: Dogmen could be our vangurd against the emergence of antediluvian hyperborean abominations.
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Post by virtusblack on Apr 8, 2019 16:37:47 GMT
I totally believe there's all kinds of stuff going on in the crust of the earth that we don't know about that the governments of the world DO. Probably varieties of things, and yes a lot of it is antediluvian. I also believe a lot of that is at the heart of the UFO phenomenon and the unexplainable disappearances that happen in the woods. That's what makes this mystery so interesting. It all seems to connect in certain ways. I don't think we can draw too many conclusions in who's on who's side, or what lives where, but there's mountains of evidence that it's all going on and it all exists and is actively concealed from the general public. One reason I like Steve Quayle's research so much is that I feel he does the best job at showing the evidence of what we can still see on the surface of the earth, and showing the historical documents that show what people knew about, were talking about hundreds or thousands of years ago and where it all went... (Smithsonian or Vatican). He said "The greatest cover up in history, is the cover up OF history"... That's a profound statements. Everything we talk about on this forum is "fantasy" and "make believe" to the mainstream. However, it was all common KNOWLEDGE to people just a couple hundred years ago and beyond... So for as smart and knowledgeable as we think we are in the 21st century, we're really not... We're totally oblivious the world we ACTUALLY live in... That's why I like you guys so much. You guys get it, even if we all get it a little differently, : ). lol. As for the glowing organs, I've heard of other supernatural entities manifesting that had a type of GLOW to their skin... DM's eyes seem to glow at times in a "light emitting" fashion, not a "reflective" fashion... So yeah there's something there. For as much as I learn the more questions I have!
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Post by virtusblack on Nov 8, 2019 23:06:21 GMT
Ok, dogman encounters episode from last week, nov 1 2019... WAY over the top, please give it a listen and tell me what you think... I'm pretty open minded, but I dunno man, this guys story might just be too much... Maybe because it reads like a movie script... I dunno, tell me what you guys think m.youtube.com/watch?v=Phnq6vpNU54&t=1s
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Post by Eoin on Nov 9, 2019 4:00:23 GMT
Ok, dogman encounters episode from last week, nov 1 2019... WAY over the top, please give it a listen and tell me what you think... I'm pretty open minded, but I dunno man, this guys story might just be too much... Maybe because it reads like a movie script... I dunno, tell me what you guys think m.youtube.com/watch?v=Phnq6vpNU54&t=1sYou pegged it! Way over the top.
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Post by DogFlabber on Nov 9, 2019 6:48:44 GMT
Ok, dogman encounters episode from last week, nov 1 2019... WAY over the top, please give it a listen and tell me what you think... I'm pretty open minded, but I dunno man, this guys story might just be too much... Maybe because it reads like a movie script... I dunno, tell me what you guys think m.youtube.com/watch?v=Phnq6vpNU54&t=1sYou pegged it! Way over the top. I have listened to some of those episodes but not very many because seems like every time I tune in im listening to one that I just cannot believe the story is real or cant believe the guest is telling the truth. I have listened to some that I do think is real though.
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Post by Eoin on Nov 9, 2019 16:00:51 GMT
You pegged it! Way over the top. I have listened to some of those episodes but not very many because seems like every time I tune in im listening to one that I just cannot believe the story is real or cant believe the guest is telling the truth. I have listened to some that I do think is real though. I agree!
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Post by Con on Nov 15, 2019 23:00:10 GMT
Some of them really play it up sometimes. I'll give Vic his due, he did take down that one video when he realised the person involved was apparently making it all up, it was the video with the lady who went to visit the Gypsy people when she was a little girl and got chased by a dogman up a hill I believe. I think it was during her telling him about a bigfoot sighting that it must have tripped an alarm bell or something, as far as I can remember.
I don't mind obviously fake stories like the actually good creepy pasta stuff or ARG type things, those are always fun to listen to or read and some are really creative, but when it comes to real stuff like ghosts or dogman or anything else, I really find it annoying. It hurts credibility of actual people who've seen this stuff and have been affected by it, and can sometimes stop them from coming forward. Those people who don't believe in it and fake it don't have any clue what they're actually doing, until god forbid they end up running into one of these things themselves. That's when they realise they've messed up.
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Post by Eoin on Nov 16, 2019 1:18:45 GMT
Some of them really play it up sometimes. I'll give Vic his due, he did take down that one video when he realised the person involved was apparently making it all up, it was the video with the lady who went to visit the Gypsy people when she was a little girl and got chased by a dogman up a hill I believe. I think it was during her telling him about a bigfoot sighting that it must have tripped an alarm bell or something, as far as I can remember. I don't mind obviously fake stories like the actually good creepy pasta stuff or ARG type things, those are always fun to listen to or read and some are really creative, but when it comes to real stuff like ghosts or dogman or anything else, I really find it annoying. It hurts credibility of actual people who've seen this stuff and have been affected by it, and can sometimes stop them from coming forward. Those people who don't believe in it and fake it don't have any clue what they're actually doing, until god forbid they end up running into one of these things themselves. That's when they realise they've messed up. My 2 cents is that Dogman Encounters and its ilk are why people look at Cryptids with such disdain and disbelief. It’s like fake news. If Vic is going to be anything but a collector of stories, real or not, he needs to perform due diligence. Without it the podcast is nothing but a circus sideshow. It’s worse than irrelevant, it actually gets in the way of scientific discovery and destroys all our collective credibility!
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Post by jeritadamson on Nov 16, 2019 2:52:34 GMT
Yeah this guy makes himself sound like an action hero: just nonchalantly describing a casual life and death struggle between an evil dogman and not just one heroic bigfoot but an entire family of them--virtusblack is right: hollywood cliches. its cool to let your guest tell his story but good hosts can feel their audience and ask the guest the very questions or interrupt to say the exact comments the rest of us are all thinking. Vic's "safe space" therapeutic approach makes him vulnerable to liars.
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Post by Con on Nov 16, 2019 22:23:47 GMT
I liked Vic's older stuff, it had an air of credibility to it, and the people were real since you could hear it in their voices. The more it goes on, the more you get those types who either seriously over-exaggerate everything or else make things up. I get needing to pay the bills and everything, but in this kind of area, you start having fakers and people end up tarring everything else with the same brush.
It's good for people who have seen this stuff to talk about it, especially in the private one-to-one sessions he does (lord knows it's healthy to be able to talk about it), but if they're going to be on the show he might want to start giving them a better looking over, try and get only the legit people on it. It's also dangerous to an extent, there's people that read into these things all the way then go out there looking for these kinds of things. If they run into them with bad information, that could be fatal.
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