Come on, where's the REAL evidence?

Trail cams don't work well. Logically they should work but obviously they don't. What I've gathered from reports is that dog men and Sasquatch can see the IR beam that triggers the trail cam to activate. I've read more than a few reports that mentioned people using night vision and painting a squatch or dogman with the light have them react to it by putting their arm up to block it like if someone shined a bright light into our face. So I believe the IR isn't invisible to them like it is to us.

Thanks for thread! Some will take offense to this but I for one see this as an opportunity to improve upon evidence and how it is presented.

Coming from an engineering and science background I am inherently skeptic of the existence of cryptids. Even though I am skeptical of such things I have an odd interest of the, "what if" scenario that drives my interest in cryptids and more so dogman due the classic werewolf being my favorite monster since I was a kid.

Would love to see the evidence I keep hearing people talk about on the various YouTube channels. A standard set in place to categorize the evidence available such as rating the quality would help a lot.

So. put yourself in an EYEWITNESS's" shoes. Could you grab your phone or cam and click a pic of an 6-8ft tall Werewolf snarling at you? Even if you saw one running across a field could you stop in time or have the presence of mind to snap a pic or spin your dashcam?

The answer is HELL NO!
You would shit yourself and come unglued first. When thats done and you're gathering your thoughts....your sighting is over.

After speaking with many eyewitnesses, who 98% are currently experiencing PTSD, they would all say no as well. The reason is simply because these encounters happen to the unexpected and are so surreal that the experience takes you out of any presence of mind and puts you in a dream state of sorts.
Think about it.....the people who have the great still shots and film probably got too close. Its highly possible.

My point is sign up to be a field investigator so you can get the latest sightings in your state. When you receive the message nut up and get your ass in the woods. The only REAL EVIDENCE is first hand. So go get into the woods and often.

Be safe and use your head.

Dogmanistrator already said:

I really can't add much to that, SCB/guest, except to please be civil.  

You stated:  
Please do.   What areas, exactly.  Be specific, and please cite incidents, dates, and times, since you are adept at investigations.  I would like to know who, what, when, where, how, etc.  Any incidents in Pennsylvania?

Further:
Again, please do. I'm sure the administrators of NADP would welcome information and imagery.  I know I would love to see them. 

...and:
I'd agree with that.  Nor do I.   People have pointed out that there don't seem to be any accounts of this thing actually killing anybody, but you know there are a lot of people who go missing all the time, especially in parks and remote areas, in such a way as to not fall into any of the usual categories of missing people.  I wonder if some of them might indeed have been lunch for this cryptid or something else.  If I recall correctly, some were photographers and disappeared when they were taking photos.  I wonder if any of them got a good photo of it.  The latent image might be fading in an abandoned camera deep in the recesses of a forest somewhere.  

Steph Young wrote a book on encounters with invisible predators.  It was quite interesting.  Have you read it?  www.amazon.com/PREDATORS-WOODS-Stories-Encounters-Creatures-ebook/dp/B00QO5713E/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

She also talks about it here:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1pDJko2J0

As far as collecting photo or video evidence goes, as a trained still photographer I can attest to how difficult it can be to get a usable photo of something in an action situation where the photogapher has no time to pre-focus or pre-set for the appearance of action at a particular point and time.  If one has to see the subject happening, then deploy and use a camera, the likelihood of getting a good photo diminishes.  Add to that a heavy dose of terror, and it gets even harder.  Most people fail to do it, and most amateur cameras, even the higher-end ones simply do not have the speed and quality to tackle moving subjects in dark places.  I also think most animals can sense or see the IR illumination from game/trail cameras.  I have seen lots of trail cam images and videos where an animal comes directly to the camera and starts checking it out, a dead giveaway that they can sense or see it. If it was an animal (or entity) such as bigfoot or dogman, it may very well use those senses to avoid the camera. 

I am 50 years old still in admin Law enforcement for a state Agency in the north east. As far as evidence i can tell you this, on a disturbance call as a Deputy Sheriff in rural Va. 16 years ago. I saw an 8 foot plus upright canine bipedal creature that was between 400-500 lbs. You cant describe the primal fear. Not kodak time. Ground was full of leaves and hard. Only mark i saw was linear scratches on the complainant's trailer this thing was getting off on tormenting. I wad Scared to death thinking my dispatcher and Sgt. think i am crazy if i report a werewolf creature because it was not a bear which i am very aware of. My training and muscle memory auto pilot saved me. It was walking parallel and away so i did not shoot thank God. It would not have been taken down by my 12 gauge rem 870 and from what i now know probably would have came for me. Thing of nightmares. Mine was not a violent encounter except in my nitemares. This thing had the longest creepiest forearms and claws other than it looking like somthing straight out underworld movie and skrym game kids play. Monster dog had Lat muscles with a huge back and thinner waist. It looked straight ahead and thank God i never saw it's eyes. It clawed a tree as it walked away and scared me almost to bowel release. I have had critical incidents but nothing ever like this almost other worldly event. Its true before it happens all goes silent and hair stands up on your neck and body like an electrical field. What i can say is some states on East coast Some Game wardens and Encon L/e are aware that they exist but are pretty rare to have an encounter. Not a conversation discussed openly. I have a buddy who worked in VA then PA "Trout trooper" and he knew quite a bit. My one friend who works natural resources in NC knows nothing. The reason i dont care who believes me is what i saw cannot be taken away from me. The world is much more hidden and full of suprises and the unknown than what we are ever taught. I had a brief window into that which terrifues me and intrigues me. I personally would not report officially any sighting unless a person was injured by the cryptid. Reporting it will be a lose lose imo. It would bring unwanted attention on a creature and its pod that assuming did not hurt you. Or it would bring unwanted attention on yourself. The topic itself brings ridicule they don't have to really go after people that are just witnesses. The bf story in southern Va of the guy that shot one and recovered blood by the game warden was true. cya I never want to see a DM again but want to help people who have been traumatized by having encounters. I also want to learn more for myself so i can understand what they are. I have no need or concern to convince anyone that they are real. Godbless.

vadm,first of all,thank you for sharing your encounter with us.I have more than 50 years of experience with firearms,6 years of which I served in the U.S.Marine Corps as an MOS 2111:Infantry Weapons Repairman (unit armorer).You stated that you thought your Remington 870 12ga.shotgun was insufficient to kill such a creature.I'm curious as to what it was about the beast,or possibly the 12ga.load you were issued,that made you feel as though you were "unarmed with a deadly weapon".However,I do think that your decision not to open fire was the correct course of action, given the circumstances you described.Thanks again for sharing.