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Post by Curious on Sept 3, 2018 3:13:12 GMT
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Post by John L. on Sept 3, 2018 13:03:06 GMT
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Post by ag47 on Sept 3, 2018 13:43:13 GMT
Thanks both of you.
Curious, I had a strong deja vu when I read your sig line. I saw it posted in an office some time ago and the truth of it stuck with me. Do you know from whom it originated? (I don't).
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Post by jessz on Sept 3, 2018 14:38:35 GMT
Sounds like a mt lion to me. Copy/paste from the Facebook group I first saw this.
Sounds a lot like a Mt. lion attack. They can kill a large number of animals in one night, 5 - 10 in a single attack is typical.
They kill by attacking the throat, typically from above in an attempt to sever the spine. Sometimes the will bite through the skull. They will feed from the front and / or neck first. If it had time, it may drag the animals away and try to cover them with debris.
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Post by jessz on Sept 3, 2018 14:40:55 GMT
Thanks both of you. Curious, I had a strong deja vu when I read your sig line. I saw it posted in an office some time ago and the truth of it stuck with me. Do you know from whom it originated? (I don't). They may not be used to lion attacks. Also, the horses were not full sized. Mini horses or ponies. Horses are actually a favorite of my lions. Horses, sheep, goats , and even cows. Oops! Quoted the wrong person. Haha sorry.
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Post by ag47 on Sept 3, 2018 18:03:38 GMT
Jessz, Dang, I thought I said something noteworthy LOL
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Post by jessz on Sept 4, 2018 12:06:09 GMT
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Post by John L. on Sept 4, 2018 15:39:04 GMT
**"UPDATE*** THE 3 HORSES/2 DOGS killed story has been removed. I did some research-There has been no mountain lions in Kentucky since the turn of the last century. Something stinks here...
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Post by jessz on Sept 4, 2018 21:00:48 GMT
Weirdness continues..
I have no fact checked the info below, just copy pasting from a Facebook group.
***** BREAKING UPDATE ***** (This story on the mysterious animal deaths is quickly going viral.) I did reach out to Kentucky Fish and Wildlife and here is the agencies response: —— “A wild animal played no role in the deaths of three horses killed in Monroe County over the Labor Day weekend, investigators with the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources concluded. Local law enforcement officials requested an assessment from Kentucky Fish and Wildlife after a landowner discovered three of his horses mutilated. The landowner reported the incident the morning of Sept. 2. Investigators reached their conclusion after a careful evaluation of the wounds and the scene. A husky found dead nearby suffered no visible wounds. Kentucky Fish and Wildlife limited its role to determining whether a large predator was involved in the deaths of the animals. State wildlife officials did not request a necropsy to determine the cause of the deaths since it appears that wildlife was not involved.” AND THEN I ASKED WHAT SPECIFICALLY LED THEM TO BELIEVE THE ANIMALS MAY HAVE BEEN SHOT? The response: Both the conservation officer and the wildlife biologist noted there was a round hole in at least one of the dead horses not caused by the fang of a wild animal. Without a necropsy, it would be speculative to say what caused the deaths of these animals. ————- I have contacted them with a folo-up. They mention a “round hole,” but do not specifically say the horses were shot. But the sheriff says they toldhim the horses were shot. ODD. And, if the animals were shot isn’t that a crime? Shouldn’t a necropsy be done to recover the bullets? WHAT DO YOU THINK? ———- *** EXCLUSIVE UPDATE ON MYSTERIOUS ANIMAL ATTACKS IN KENTUCKY. (This case is now gaining national attention.) WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTO ... but I am posting it for a reason. Monroe County Sheriff Dale Ford wants to know if you think that looks like a gunshot wound? WHY? Because he says Kentucky Fish and Wildlife tells him the three miniature horses found slaughtered over the weekend were SHOT. Sheriff Ford says no way ... and he is furious. The sheriff tells me no one from the state did a necropsy on the horses. Is there some type of miscommunication here? I REACHED OUT, but have not heard back from the state. In case you are catching up here is the post from the sheriff from over the wekend: ——- The Monroe County Sheriffs Department as well as members of The Kentucky Fish and Wildlife responded to the Bill Butler Spur area on reports of dead animals. Upon arrival they found three horses, a pit bull and husky dead. It is believed that this occurred in the wee hours of the morning and all sign show that it possibly could have been done by a large cat/ animal. Members of the Kentucky fish and wildlife diagnostics team are on their way from Frankfort to examine these animals. We highly advise you to please keep a close eye on small children and animals when they are let out side and use caution and be aware of your surroundings. ——- OKAY, so since then Kentucky Fish and Wildlife first reported the animals’ wounds were not consistent with a large predator attack. And now the sheriff says the state tells him the horses were shot? Sheriff Ford literally told me,”BULLxoxo!” He says there is no doubt in his mind the neck wounds on the horses were inflicted by some type of large animal. The sheriff says he does not know what type of animal attacked. But he says there are possibilities. For instance, he sent me this other photo of a large cat recently seen in the area. HE SAYS THERE IS NO evidence at this time humans were involved in the deaths of the animals. The sheriff says public safety is a priority and people in the area still should not let their guard down with their pets and small children while the predator remains at large. Another development of note: One of the dogs — a pitbull/boxer mix — survived the attack with a few wounds. A husky did not. THIS STORY CONTINUES TO EVOLVE. SHARE THIS POST.
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Post by ag47 on Sept 4, 2018 21:12:14 GMT
Weird stuff. If they were shot, one would think there would be bullets to recover, or exit wounds. It doesn't seem to me it should be that hard to determine from a LE point of view. Sounds a lot like disinformation on the part of one or more agencies, but then I'm suspicious in regards to that kind of stuff.
Thanks for sharing the article/information.
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Post by jessz on Sept 4, 2018 21:29:26 GMT
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Post by michaelcorvin on Sept 4, 2018 21:55:08 GMT
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Post by John L. on Sept 5, 2018 12:34:17 GMT
Very suspicious. Even if it was a mountain lion, the question would be- do mountain lions randomly kill for the sport of it? 5 dead animals here and were not eaten? It takes a significant amount of energy to kill like this. It makes no sense. And the gunshot speculation is ludicrous. Everyone within a mile would have heard shooting during the night.
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Post by michaelcorvin on Sept 6, 2018 20:32:53 GMT
Fish and Wildlife and Monroe County Sheriff department are arguing over it being a big animal.
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Post by copydonald on Sept 8, 2018 17:06:38 GMT
I'm not sure why Fish & Game is covering this up, but I can say with confidence, after having over two plus decades of full time law enforcement experience (several of those as a death investigator), that they know exactly what killed those animals. It is very easy to differentiate between a gun shot wound and an animal bite/attack. It is also fairly routine to have a necropsy done as well in cases where there is a question as to the cause of death. I usually never post on line about anything, but this story is really bothering me and I felt compelled to throw my two cents in about it. I'm at least glad to see that the sheriff of that county is skeptical about F&G's "findings".
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