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Post by arklatex on May 1, 2021 0:30:36 GMT
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Post by Minnesota watcher on May 1, 2021 15:45:53 GMT
Yes, this incident has been related in several places. It's plausible for several reasons. First, other incidents reveal dogmen in packs as well. Second, they are often described as territorial, as they seem to be behaving in this situation. Third, they often harass homes with scratching, as here. That seems to indicate their curiosity and desire to scare people away from their territory, as they succeeded in doing in this situation. Fourth, they did not engage in violence toward family members as they could have -- sometimes dogmen violently attack, but often they do not.
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Post by carljenkins on May 2, 2021 4:17:17 GMT
So much good stuff to watch and so little time to do it. Hopefully I'll get to this one.
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Post by somerandomuser on May 2, 2021 5:14:57 GMT
I saw it a while back, it was a very interesting encounter. I thought a few things first they goofed by keeping firearms outside of the home, next they goofed when they said animals are trying to break in (LE either knew exactly what was going on and didn't want to deal with it but gave them advice to keep the doors locked or they figured just an animal trying to get into the home for food..etc) and lastly when they discovered the pack's home they should have left that site right away not gone and investigated. What if had been a bear in there and they woke it up, not the best situation at the very least they could have just assumed a bear was in there although iirc it wasn't a "den" more of a debris shelter type "den". Either way too many people are really not using common sense, what police department would respond to animals attacking a home or monsters they probably think someone is on drugs or drunk, now if a group of people are attacking the home a more plausible and realistic scenario they prolly will come out. They fully expect people to try to break into homes even a group of them, this is one of those times where telling the truth could have had a bad outcome.
A bit off subject but years ago I remember being taught that certain occupations they get certain stories, for example if we suspect we are being followed we may pull into a quite neighborhood turn off our lights and just idle waiting to see if we are being tailed. Well let's say that a Police Officer drives by and asks what you are doing, are you going to say " I am checking if I am being followed", nope you sound like you are up to no good and probably crazy. Instead something like I was calling a friend after getting lost trying to get to their house (of course have an address ready for that particular part of town). Another example is if say one is calling a manufacturer for a product if you wanted information about the company one might consider calling the sales department. Why? Those guys want to make a sale they will sit and shoot the poop if they think they are about to sell 3 million dollars of sprinkler heads, basically they will tell you pretty much anything you want to know. Once again that sales guy is there to schmooze with the customer small talk is part of the sale so they wouldn't question it if you asked other questions and generally they try to be helpful as this might lead to a sale. In the end tailor a story towards the occupation, animals breaking into your home sounds nutty and it's more of a job for animal control or Game&Fish perhaps DNR. As far as LE knows it might be racoons raiding your trash and perhaps someone is not familiar with this happening, while racoons are nature's criminals wearing a mask and all not to mention they are also known as The North American Trash Panda why waste the time and man power?
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Post by trolljegeren on May 2, 2021 16:42:41 GMT
That's a good one. I've visited the site on a few occasions, twice solo at night, crossing the frozen bog. Coyote prints over mine in the snow but nothing larger, good fun. I've have spoken with Shelley Martin a bit. She's intelligent and no-nonsense. It went down as she said, not necessarily the way it was dramatized. Her account is in Godfrey's Real Wolfmen. A very credible encounter IMO. There a few pics of the area in the Field Reports thread--Your First Hand Investigations. I don't think the daughter and boyfriend knew what they were looking at with the supposed den and I don't think it was related but who knows.
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Post by arklatex on May 2, 2021 18:14:03 GMT
That's a good one. I've visited the site on a few occasions, twice solo at night, crossing the frozen bog. Coyote prints over mine in the snow but nothing larger, good fun. I've have spoken with Shelley Martin a bit. She's intelligent and no-nonsense. It went down as she said, not necessarily the way it was dramatized. Her account is in Godfrey's Real Wolfmen. A very credible encounter IMO. There a few pics of the area in the Field Reports thread--Your First Hand Investigations. I don't think the daughter and boyfriend knew what they were looking at with the supposed den and I don't think it was related but who knows.
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Post by arklatex on May 2, 2021 18:14:58 GMT
So....you've been to the actual site?? Wow. Tell that Woman Guns are Always allowed in the dang house !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol
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Post by arklatex on May 3, 2021 1:51:55 GMT
Yes, this incident has been related in several places. It's plausible for several reasons. First, other incidents reveal dogmen in packs as well. Second, they are often described as territorial, as they seem to be behaving in this situation. Third, they often harass homes with scratching, as here. That seems to indicate their curiosity and desire to scare people away from their territory, as they succeeded in doing in this situation. Fourth, they did not engage in violence toward family members as they could have -- sometimes dogmen violently attack, but often they do not. Yea, I also noticed it was odd they they just hung out and did not attack. In his aching condition, he was a prime, easy target....
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Post by trolljegeren on May 3, 2021 13:49:30 GMT
Wow, a lot of cop bashing I see. I became a police officer after I retired from the Air Force, and did my job until an injury ended my law enforcement career. But I'm still in law enforcement as a civilian, writing police reports and doing everything but arresting people for their crimes. Until you walk in our shoes and deal with all the bullshit we deal with every day and all the criminals, morons, and mentally ill people, you have clue what it's all about. Just like any career, there are going to be some idiots. If I don't get cussed out during a shift, to me, that's been a good day. So if you think we're all useless, you can all go screw yourselves. Then I too can generalize and say that you're no better than ANTIFA and BLM. Now that I know that everyone here are cop haters, I'm out of here and this forum. Whoa there Mr Jenkins, I don't think anyone thinks ALL cops are useless. I know there are plenty of good ones and most do. But I think any balanced individual will agree, it's high time things changed in the policing world. From my personal experiences as a teenaged white male in Mid Atlantic suburbia, I've had my share of exposure, never for anything other than traffic offenses such as rolling through stop signs, running a red at 2am with no one on the road...but that cop in the shopping center lot...My problem was I'd never pay anything on time, making things difficult for myself. In those dealings, where I was always polite and respectful (I actually wanted to be a cop back then) some cops were professional and decent others were complete a-holes. Like this guy: I was sitting on the steps of a bank along main street, small college town, Saturday afternoon eating a slice I'd picked up from the pizza joint next door, bank closed if it matters. I soon realize a cop is SCREAMING from across the street and looking in my direction, I ignore it because surely I'm doing nothing wrong, start looking around for the problem when the cop jay walks across traffic, unstrapping his gun! Yeah, I was the criminal that warranted that behavior, normal looking dude(as if it matters) eating pizza on the bank steps- wow. That happened 30 years ago, I've not forgotten it and I got off easy. Some people are not suited to the job, and it gives the rest a bad image, simple as that.
I'm antifascist, somehow the powers-that-think-they-are have made that a bad thing. Not surprising I guess... and black lives do matter. What I'm impressed by is how nonviolent that movement currently is, my gods man, they've/we've plenty of reason to go all out, so much injustice.
Understand folks are pissed, it's not you personally, stick around, it's not all that active here but I've appreciated your input.
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Post by Minnesota watcher on May 3, 2021 14:03:27 GMT
I live in Minnesota's Twin Cities, where violent crime and neighborhood destruction exploded after George Floyd. That's your alternative to the police who get no thanks from many people who would never do the job of the police but benefit from public safety. It's a very difficult job, made more difficult by those who hate the police but benefit greatly from their work.
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Post by ag47 on May 3, 2021 14:11:22 GMT
I'm rolling-back some of the comments to get this thread back on-track. I did not intend to start a cop-bashing thread. Trolljegeren's last post pretty well sums it up accurately.
My story was true, simple as that. And yes, Mr. Jenkins I have walked that mile and I DO have more than a clue. It was an eye-opener to say the least. I did not much care for what I saw going on, and how I was treated. I will not relive it by going into it. I'm not ashamed to say I did NOT fit into it. It was an experience that changed my life and my viewpoint forever.
So, let's drop the cop thing here.
Please continue on the subject of dogman.
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Post by Minnesota Watcher on May 3, 2021 17:37:07 GMT
The effective legal means was a trial resulting in a conviction, which just occurred up here in Minnesota. That could have been accomplished without many millions in property damage and several deaths. The metro police are now understaffed because of retirements and crime is at a record high -- police critics will claim that's the police's fault? Not . . . move up here and try living on Lake Street in Minneapolis, aka crime central. Before long, you will see the disorder does not come from the police.
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Post by arklatex on May 3, 2021 23:22:07 GMT
We are soooooooo far Off Topic here !! Lol
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Post by ag47 on May 3, 2021 23:27:32 GMT
......the Paranormal witness episode ' The Wolf Pack"? My bad. Please continue. .......
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Post by Kiyona on May 4, 2021 1:25:37 GMT
is making an acccount the only way to watch it?
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